Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/01

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Best Infrared filter for Noctilux??
From: "George Kenney" <georgekenney@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:36:06 -0400
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Thanks very much, Henning.

I'd already ordered the B+H 093 (87c), but will now also get the 
B+H 092 (89b). Probably I'll also try some strips of gel filter taped 
to a pinhole bodycap...

Cheers,

G.



On 1 Aug 2001, at 10:17, Henning Wulff wrote:

> At 9:57 PM -0400 7/31/01, George Kenney wrote:
> >Thanks much, Marty.
> >
> >I had this discussion this evening with my photo workshop
> >instructor, who was unfamiliar with the effects of an 87C (because he
> >works with SLR in 35 and 120). He tried to steer me to a 25A filter,
> >but I pointed out that with a rangefinder the blackness of an 87C is
> >not an issue.
> >
> >Anywho, thanks for your constructive comments.
> >
> >G.
> >
> >On 1 Aug 2001, at 10:11, Marty Deveney wrote:
> >
> >>  For all the IR info you'll ever need refer to:
> >>
> >>  http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/mainpage.htm
> >>
> >>  Note that you can buy 120 / 220 Kodak infrared cut down from 70mm
> >>  aerial stock: http://www.homestead.com/infrared/
> >>
> >>  None of the other medium format films are as sensitive to IR light
> >>  as Kodak IR film.
> >>
> >>  Also note that the 87-series filters are opaque and MUCh darker
> >>  than the red filters.  Rangefinders are perfect for working with
> >>  IR film and an 87 series filter because you can see and shoot at
> >>  the same time.  Much better than composing, putting the filter on,
> >>  locking the mirror up . . . yawn . . .
> >>
> >>  Marty
> >>
> >>
> 
> Using an 87c, even with HIE, is kind of pushing it. The exposure times
> are extremely long, and the effect is quite similiar to the 87. The
> 87c has only 3% trasmittance at 800nm, while the 87 has 57%. As the 87
> is essentially opaque below 750nm, it is probably the best choice for
> HIE. The other commonly available IR films will not work with the 87c
> at all, as their sensitivity in not far enough into the IR. The 87
> will work with the Maco, but the 89b is probably the best one. The
> Konica will work with the 89b as well, although I like the results
> with the 70 best. The 70 has a cutoff at about 660nm, the 89b at about
> 690nm, while the 29's cutoff is at 610 and the 25's at 590, all at
> approximately 5% diffuse density.
> 
> If you want to get just one IR filter, the 89b is probably the most
> useful. If you will only be using HIE, the 87 is probably the best
> bet. The 87c is mostly useful for experimentation, and stay away from
> the 87a (cutoff above 900nm).
> 
> Regarding a previous question about loading HIE in the dark, YES, keep
> it dim...., very dim. Tech Pan can be loaded in all but sunlight, but
> HIE can fog with a 40w bulb in a fairly large room.
> 
> -- 
>     *            Henning J. Wulff
>    /|\      Wulff Photography & Design
>   /###\   mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com
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> 

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