Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/07/24

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Subject: [Leica] re: digital noctilux vs 10X faster films?
From: Robert Monaghan <rmonagha@post.cis.smu.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:57:36 -0500 (CDT)

don't give up on film quite yet, see ten times faster film emulsions page:
http://www.cnrs.fr/cw/en/pres/compress/emulsionsphoto.html

quote: The yield is then _eff = 2 silver atoms per photon, i.e. 10 times
higher than prior yields. The mechanism is such that the number of atoms
is proportional to the number of photons in a very wide range of light
intensities, including zero or low exposure, and that the sensitivity gain
does not suffer from any accompanying fogging effect. endquote: 

it is also unlikely that future digicams will be able to use much smaller 
sensors due to issues like wavelengths of light and noise levels, viz:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00091102foveon16mp.asp

quote:Mr. Mead said that because of fundamental size limits in the
wavelengths of light, it is unlikely that future digital sensors will gain
much additional resolution. endquote (Mead developed 16 MP Foveon chip)

Assuming that Agfa et. al. come out with 10X faster films as hoped and now
evidently technically possible, with better linearity and less fogging,
that translates into 3+ stops speed for film, and about equal light
efficiency to current CCD sensors (unless you intend to supercool your
chips?). Granted, digicams will be able to do software tricks, and image
intensifying tubes or technology will be available (but also to film
cameras?). But the technology wars aren't over yet, and they aren't so 
one-sided as many would have us believe ;-) grins bobm


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