Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/06/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] LEICA FOR SALE
From: Robert Burgess <bobburgess@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:09:25 -0400

Thanks, PAscal.

I am beginning to see that I shoot for the pleasure of shooting and the
results.

I should not care what I shoot with as long as I get the images I seek.

This thread has probably out used its value.
Cheers,
Bob

> From: Pascal <cyberdog@attglobal.net>
> Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:30:37 +0200
> To: LUG <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LEICA FOR SALE
> 
> On 24-06-2001 00:29 Robert Burgess wrote:
> 
>> I have used M series equipment for quite awhile and love the system dearly.
>> I don't feel that the R stuff measures up.
>> 
>> I would love to hear from anyone ( please don't seek me out and stone my
>> house) that has done any similar "real world" testing.
> 
> Hello Robert,
> 
> I'd like to make a few observations on what you wrote:
> 
> 1. I fully concur with you that, for most images, there is very little or no
> discernable difference at all between quality of Leica images (M and R) and
> those shot by the best Canon or Nikon gear. That is to say: in most common
> shooting conditions. And certainly in the case of color print film. The
> "Leica edge" can IMHO only be seen under more difficult conditions and on
> slide film or b&w prints. Case in point: "every" lens is good at
> intermediate f-stops. The distinguishing feature will tend to be at the
> largest f-stops where most of the Leica lenses clearly show an advantage.
> 
> 2. In respect to differences between M and R, there aren't any that can
> clearly set out one line over the other. It all depends on the specific
> lenses we are comparing. Both lines have their top performers. To conclude
> that "R stuff does not measure up" seems to be a bit too harsh a statement
> to me. To what doesn't it measure up ? Compared to the M ? Compared to other
> makers' SLR cameras?
> If we are comparing with the M, there is no conclusive evidence to say that
> the M is better, as a whole, than the R (assuming we talk on lens qualities,
> since the choice of rangefinder vs. reflex is a personal matter).
> If we are comparing with other SLR brands, then (since M and R are, on the
> whole, on the same high level) both the M and R would not "measure up" if it
> is your conclusion that those other brands are "better".
> 
> However, apart from lens qualities, there are lots of other reasons why
> people will opt for an R system instead of, say, an EOS kit. Ease of
> operation, "classic" operation, built quality, tactile pleasures, etc.
> Ultimately, it's a very personal decision.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Pascal
> NO ARCHIVE
> 
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