Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/05/17

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Campagnolo vs. Hexar
From: Mickey Rosenthal <michelr@inter.net.il>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:34:30 +0200
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010517124914.00ac7c60@popd.ix.netcom.com>

My Shimano mountain bike gears are much better in every respect, then the Huret
ones owned by me about 35 years ago.

Mickey Rosenthal



Mark Bohrer wrote:

> OK, I ride a Waterford frame (Wisconsin, former Schwinn Paramount works)
> with a combination of Shimano Dura-Ace and Integra parts (Integra triple
> for hills, almost everything else Dura-Ace), Rolf Vector Pro wheels
> (Canadian, with unmarked DT-Hugi hubs from Switzerland), Salsa stem (Santa
> Cruz, CA), TTT bars (Italy), and Shimano SPD747 mountain bike pedals (I
> like being able to walk in cleated shoes). The Shimano stuff shifts and
> stops great; love the STI shifting with the brake levers. Entire bike
> weighs around 20 pounds.
>
> (My tires are Vittoria back and Continental front.)
>
> That said, I don't think the recent Japanese rangefinder cameras from
> Konica, Viogtlander/Cosina et al are quite as nice as M-series cameras. I
> like the 'feel' of my M6 TTL and M3. I don't even want to get into the
> lenses; I use what's appropriate for the job at hand.
>
> At 12:02 PM 5/17/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:38:27 -0700
> >From: Tom Finnegan <TomF@piengr.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] Campagnolo vs. Hexar
> >Message-ID: <F17203C79991D4119B3900805F9A6BD0091145@PIE-MAIN>
> >References:
> >
> >Douglas wrote:
> >
> > >Okay, this takes me back to my teenage years, when every little piece of
> > >cash I had ever made was tied up in a Cinelli (B, couldn't afford the
> >best),
> > >with Campagnolo gear (Record, couldn't afford Nuovo Record).  I haven't
> >even
> > >*thought* about high-end racing bikes since.  Is Campagnolo still a notch
> > >better than the Japanese stuff?
> >
> >In some minds, yes. But in reality, no.
> >I am completely happy with Shimano DuraAce, it is excellent!
> >
> >I have an American frame made from Italian tubing, Dutch tires on French
> >rims with Swiss spokes, Japanese drivetrain, Italian stem, bars and
> >saddle. Seat post made in Florida (I think), chainlube is English.
> >
> >American, German, Swedish, Japanese cameras.
> >
> >All this stuff works great.
> >Its a big wonderful world!
> >
> >and just back from a ride,
> >Henry
> >
> >(now this is more like the LUG I know)
> >******************************************
> >As Henry noted, the current Shimano gear is functionally just as good as the
> >Campy gear. Not that I would have any Shimano gear on my bikes though!
> >Strong philosphical differences there!
> >
> >American: custom steel frame (tubing flavor unknown), headset, rear brake,
> >bottom bracket, lube
> >Japanese: seatpost, handlebars, front brake, brake levers, front derailleur
> >Italian: rear derailleur, stem, crank, pedals, bar tape, front hub
> >German: rear hub, freewheel, chain, camera in jersey pocket
> >French: shifters, rims
> >English: saddle
> >Swiss: spokes
> >Thailand: tires (Italian parent company)
> >
> >Tom Finnegan
> >Seattle
> >
> >(life is too short to ride clinchers)
>
> Mark Bohrer
> www.kokophoto.com
> Pro mountain bike racing on the web

In reply to: Message from Mark Bohrer <lurchl@ix.netcom.com> (Re: [Leica] Campagnolo vs. Hexar)