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Subject: [Leica] RE: feuds - now Filioque
From: Jim Brick <jim_brick@agilent.com>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:01:23 -0700
References: <200105151549.f4FFnFb52848@riverside.haddockseyes.com>

Do I have to keep reminding you folks that religion (and politics) is/are
banned subject(s) on the LUG. Any more of this and I'll have to report you
to Brian Reid.

And he won't be happy!

;)

Jim


>>
>> Sometimes a disagreement takes on a life of its own.
>>
>> If you read the newspapers at all (I just look at the pictures, myself)
>> you will have noticed that Pope John Paul II, head of the Roman
>> Catholic Church, visited Greece, a stronghold of the Orthodox church,
>> and was not exactly welcome.
>>
>> For about 1000 years there was, more or less, one church. In 1054 AD
>> there was a big fight, and the Christian church broke into two major
>> groups. The Pope's visit to Greece was the first visit since 1054 by
>> the leader of one side to a stronghold of the other side.
>>
>> What was the fight about? Almost nothing, seen through the lens of
>> history. The Roman church wanted the Nicene Creed to say "the Holy
>> Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life, proceeds from the Father and the
>> Son", while the Eastern Church (centered in Constantinople) didn't like
>> the words "and the Son" at the end. That phrase is called "the
>> filioque" "feel e OH kay", and arguing about it has lasted a thousand
>> years, a dozen crusades, sacking, burning, pillaging, and so forth.
>>
>> Was it worth it? Not for us to decide. Sometimes the feud is life
>> itself, and when people stop feuding they no longer have any reason to
>> exist.
>>
>> Find it in you to ignore people that you are convinced are wrong.
>> Whether what they are wrong about is lens sharpness, or whether the
>> Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son or just from the
>> Father, it is not worth the combat.

In reply to: Message from Brian Reid <reid@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> ([Leica] feuds)