Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/05/10

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Deadman's new site finally up!
From: George Hartzell <hartzell@cs.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:47:06 -0700
References: <B72026E0.D2FD%john@pinkheadedbug.com>

Johnny Deadman writes:
 > >on 5/10/01 10:44 AM, George Hartzell at hartzell@cs.berkeley.edu wrote:
 > > [...]
 > > - what features did you use that break non-IE browsers?
 > 
 > Tables. Plain, ordinary vanilla bloody tables. Netscape 6 has a bug [...]

Sigh.  Well, at least it's a bug and not something like Netscape went
and decided that tables should be laid out upside down and with
<blink> or something....

 > [...] chaps like you think I'm a Microsoft Nazi. hmm.

Hell, I used to *work* for them.  You're nowhere near my particular
circle of hell!  (in my defense, I joined a company founded by three
ex-Apple folks.  Who'd've thought they'd sell to M'soft).  And *gasp*
in M'soft's defense, if you're going to go from a small company to a
big company in a hurry, they have some great internal infrastructure
in place to make it happen.  Too bad you have to promote their agenda
too....

I'm interested in the Web as a multiplatform place, and always
interested when people I respect [seem to] make decisions that move
away from that ideal.  I've come across some very good reasons
(usually tied to market share and or customer requirements) and some
cases of "eh, who cares about the other guys...".  And let's not even
talk about UI's that use Java....

I've seen a lot of folks here posting portfolios on the Zing site.  I
usually can't get past the first page.  It fires up, displays, and
w/in a few seconds throws up on some piece of Javascript and crashes
Netscape.  I'm not on the latest (soon, PhD thesis is due next week,
then I can clean house [and start shooting!!!! {and learn to use my
new Jobo <and find a new bulb for my new LeafScan45>}]) so I haven't
bothered to bitch.

 > > [...]
 > > - <rant>How could you abandon the noble goal of cross-platform
 > > compatibility???</rant>  Seriously, I'm interested in what
 > > motivated/drove the decision.
 > 
 > I didn't! Like I say it WASN'T a decision. It's just a statement of fact
 > that Netscape browsers may not display content correctly. Maybe I should
 > reword it. Incidentally, did you get beyond the front page, and did it work?

I'm a Netscape 4.x user on Linux at home, it seems to work fine.  I
just skimmed around using IE on a Mac at school (on a cinema display,
drool) and it seemed to work.

Interestingly, I can't find settings that let me resolve the white's
on the grayscale calibration bar on my Dell Inspiron laptop's LCD
under RedHat Linux 6.2 in Netscape 4.something-or-other, but the full
scale resolves beautifully on the Apple Cinema LCD display.  Sometimes
I think that an Apple cinema display on a MacCube running one of the
PowerPC linux's would just be my personal little slice of heaven.  Or
maybe it's one of the SGI LCD's (smaller, but still sweet) on intel
hardware....

g.

In reply to: Message from Johnny Deadman <john@pinkheadedbug.com> (Re: [Leica] Deadman's new site finally up!)