Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/04/28

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Subject: Re: [Leica] C-41 process b&w films
From: "Michael E. Bérubé" <>
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:58:13 -0400

Firstly, welcome to the LUG Lea. Cool cards.

Secondly, T400CN isn't all that new and it is rumored that Kodak is already 
replacing is with their new Portra 400B&W that is just hitting the shelves 
now. Since 'TCN' may be going the way of Kodachrome 25, my recommendation 
would be to try the new Portra B&W (which is said to be more costly of 
course) and compare that to the XP2. Then again, I bought up a bunch of the 
TCN that was recently marked way down at my local shop. You may want to get 
a good supply in stock while it is inexpensive. Personally, I like it 
'pushed' to 800 for the extra stop of play, but it is a fine almost 
grainless film at 400 with very moderate contrast. I haven't tried the new 
Portra yet (I have all this TCN now...), but a few folks on the list have 
an they found it is as fine grain and convenient as TCN.

With any of the chromogenic films I find what makes the largest difference 
in how I like the images is when I get my local pro lab (and even the local 
Ritz Camera) to print the negs to actual B&W paper instead of whatever 
paper they normally use for their colour negs. Once I have a nice film 
scanner and a Peizography setup, I imagine that what paper the first prints 
are made on will be largely moot. :)

Carpe Luminem,
Michael E. Bérubé

At 06:26 AM 4/28/01 -0500, lea wrote:
>On rare occasions I've shot Ilford's XP2 b&w film but see that Kodak has
>a relatively new C-41 process film out called T400CN.
>Can someone with experience point out the differences between them and
>which gives better tonal rendition? I thougth the XP2 was rather
>contrasty and wonder if the T400CN might be less so.