Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/04/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] R8 serial number
From: César Bernardo <>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:40:28 +0100

Ok Pascal, I Agree with your answer. I think the same...but I also know 
there are luggers, who think that leica products made in Portugal are 
different than products made at Germany.

Best Regards

Cesar Bernardo

At 11:43 21-04-2001 +0200, you wrote:
>On 21-04-2001 10:58, César Bernardo wrote:
> >Why, do you think there are more quality on the products made at Germany?
> >You are wrong and I invite you to visit the factory at Vila Nova de
> >Famalicão - Portugal, to verify the professionalism.
>Hello César,
>of course you are right: there is no quality difference between Leica
>products made at Solms and at Famalicao nowadays.
>However, I believe that for many people, it is not so much a question of
>quality (obviously not, since most subassemblies of M and R "made in
>Germany" come from the Portuguese Leica plant, and so do the compact
>binoculars and microscopes, plus lens subassemblies more recently), but
>rather a immaterial issue: Leica is a German company, with roots firmly
>established in German history. So, in a sense, it is logical that many
>people highly covet the "made in Germany" seal. This has more to do with
>sense of history and tradition than anything else.
>To be honest: I also prefer Leica products "made in Germany" for this
>reason. Not because products made in Portugal would be underachievers,
>but for the above mentioned reason. If you buy Leica, you kind of expect
>the "made in Germany", especially at the high price Leica is charging for
>its products. But it won't prevent me from buying Leica items "made in
>Portugal" (e.g. the R8 motorwinder and R8 motordrive have always been
>made at Famalicao).
>Most probably Leica is now shifting more and more of their production to
>the Famalicao plant because of two reasons: cheaper (Portuguese labor
>costs are, though higher than in the past, still less than German labor
>costs) and lack of sufficient production capacity at Solms.
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