Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/03/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> Theft is theft, and you are making artificial distinctions. Trespass vis et armis is > not the basis for the use of someone else's intellectual property, whether you are > Soviet or Japanese. Please note that vox populi, vox dei, so, because Russians were more than Japanese, they were right :-) Actually I apparently don't know as much as you or Marc about Zeiss postwar story, so I can only argue that I would rather accept Russians than Japanese excuse. But this is just a my feeling... > Soviet or Japanese. The Soviets got away with it (1) because they were not exporting > to the West,, What about Hasselblad copying story then? And changing of lens mount? > (2) no one cared to rattle their cage, and (3) everyone was > Leica-obssessed. ..along with Russians, but they already had Leica copies before war... Along with Industar 22 Elmar copies. And AFAIK they also had a 2/50 collapsible lens in that time. Anybody knows anything about this one? > > Also, Russians not only copied designs, they made a whole lot of > > very good and unusual lenses > > Not for Leica. The common production models (35, 50, 85, and 135) were all > derivative of Zeiss designs. Yes and no. Please consider 2.8/52 FED lenses for example. Or 3.5/50 macro lens. Before war, they had 4.5/28 lens before war, and it wasn't a Ektar copy as far as I remember. .. And was quite popular, as I had one (and hope to have it back from a friend). Also, if we are talking Leica copying, please note their innovations at this field, like FED series, LTM with synchro, lever, removable back.. (I suppose you know all this, U just mention it to make excuse for myself :), sometimes built-in lightmeters (Fed 4C). What about Drug, with 50+85 framelines and Leicavit - like film advance? Leningrad with spring motor? Stereo adapter for Leica copies? > I guess you've never seen the Nikkor 85, the Jupiter and the Sonnar in one place. OK, forgot to mention. I was talking mainly about optical assembly.. Again, please excuse me minor missteaks :) Just returned hungry from work, and, because satur venter non student dicenter, I can hardly thing about anything other than steaks. Not micesteaks :) - -------- St. - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com