RE: [Leica] Re: XTOL (Yeah!)

["Bill" <bnelsch@qwest.net>]

Ok. I'll bite.  You have a live steam engine?

Bill in Denver

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jeff S
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:34 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: XTOL (Yeah!)
>
>
> I no longer have any consistency problems with either Tmax or Xtol; Here's
> what works for me:
>
> -Keep those Xtol bottles full! There are no obvious signs that it has
> oxidized, but when it does it has all of the developing action of tap
> water. Once I'm down to 4 liters of the stuff (usually within a couple of
> days) I put the remainder into an Air Evac bottle, and it keeps just fine
> there. It does not seem to be too touchy about water conditions.
>
> -I love the Jobo 2500-series tanks and reels! You can rotary process those
> guys at full capacity with 1:3 Xtol.
>
> I only use distilled water for the final rinse, and sparingly at that. One
> of these days, I'm going to build a solar distiller: Distilled water is
> good for live steam engines too!
>
> Jeff Segawa
> NO ARCHIVE
>
>
>
> On 2001.02.22 17:34:15 -0700 Richard Edwards wrote:
> > I've done only 1+1 so far with XTOL. Only complaint
> > is batch-to-batch inconsistency, which has stopped
> > now that I mix with distilled water,
> > and shelf life, which I solve by shooting more film and
> > guzzling all the XTOL at one go.
> >
> > If I go 1+3, then it's 300ml XTOL + 900ml water,
> > for a grand total of 3 rolls in a 5-roll tank. Here
> > I'm following Kodak's recommendations to use at
> > least 100ml of solution per roll.
> >
> > Mark: Do you follow Kodak's recommendations on this?
> > Or just pack the tank full of reels, which means
> > about 63ml of solution per roll? (I'm assuming a tank
> > that takes about 250ml per roll, meaning 62.5ml of XTOL
> > with 187.5ml water for each roll.)
> >
> > Apologies to female LUGgers, but it takes balls of brass
> > to do it the latter way. Maybe this works if you extend
> > development time?
> >
> > -A-L
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:	Mark Rabiner [SMTP:mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com]
> > > Sent:	Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:19 PM
> > > To:	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject:	Re: [Leica] Re: Delta 400 vs Tmax 400
> > >
> > > Julian Thomas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Want a good 400 film... Tri-X in Xtol 1:3 by hand, 1:1 in a JOBO.
> > > SHARP!
> > > > >
> > > >  I use xtol 1:1, 24deg 8 mins for Trix. I see a lot of people using
> > 1:3.
> > > > What differences would I see if I dev 1:3 - are people
> doing this for
> > > > economy only?
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > >
> > > A more diluted developing agent makes for better edge effects make for
> > the
> > > effect of sharpness
> > >
> > > and also better sharpness due to less sulfite, a preservative which
> > also
> > > acts as
> > > a silver solvent.
> > >
> > > The increase in grain is not noticeable in 35mm even with
> faster films.
> > >
> > > mark rabiner
> >
>
>