Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/01/08

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: No Need to Trim
From: John Collier <>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 06:59:35 -0700

The ABLON template does not cut through sprocket holes. It still seems to me
to be faster to use a long leader. It is bad enough having to have three
hands to load an LTM already and my plastic surgeon refuses to attach a

John Collier

> From: Douglas Cooper <>
>> If you remove the baseplate of your camera and look at the loading diagram,
>> you will see the diagram shows the long leader.
>> Trim it! The number one killer of LTM cameras is loose bits of film.
>> John Collier
> There is no doubt that film chips will kill your camera -- it's like feeding
> chicken bones to a dog.  *However*, I have it from a guy who may well know
> more about the insides of these cameras than any man alive (note I said
> "man"), that untrimmed film is just fine if you load it properly.  In fact,
> he suggested this over cutting the leader.  (The man in question is DAG;
> dunno if Sherry would support this.)
> A)  remove the lens and base plate
> B)  turn the shutter to "T" and press the release.  (This locks the shutter
> open.)
> C)  attach the untrimmed film to the spool, and insert both, carefully,
> guiding the film as it moves across the shutter window so that it doesn't
> catch on the upper edge of the window.  DO NOT FORCE IT.  You will feel it
> when it is in the right place.
> D)  replace lens and base plate, then turn the shutter dial to release the
> lock.
> Done.
> Never had a problem.  And it's much less of a pain than trimming that
> leader.  (In fact, when you trim the film, you often cut through a sprocket
> hole, which leaves a tab that looks to me as if it's a prime candidate for
> chipping off.)