Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/01/01

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Subject: [Leica] Classic M6HM Serial Number Update
From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 09:44:26 -0800

S/N To Date 12/29/00
This is a list of all reported M6HM (0.85) Serial numbers by LUG members,
Ebay Sales, and references from Stephen Gandy's WEB Pages......
Total is  140 cameras out of the entire production of 3130, as documented by
Leica.
The list is hardly complete but should be used as a guide.
The notation of US or Hong Kong etc. is the country the camera was purchased
in.

I have an email from Leica AG, Mr. Stefan Danial-Leica Camera AG Produkt
Management, M-System.
That email states there was a total production of M6HM of 3,130 units.  I
have confirmed that report with him directly.

Standard Engraving  as engraved on the back of the camera
Line 1   “LEICA CAMERA”
Lne 2 “MADE IN GERMANY”

1,915,038 Germany, Standard Engraving

1,917,990  Europe

2,296,539  Hong Kong

2,414,454  US Standard Engraving
2,414,629  Canada Standard Engraving
2,414,683  Europe Standard Engraving
2,414,835  Canada Standard Engraving
2,414,841  US Standard Engraving
2,414,849  Asia Standard Engraving

2,415,034  US Standard Engraving
2,415,092  US Standard Engraving
2,415,207  US Standard Engraving
2,415,252  US
2.415,277  US  Standard Engraving
2,415,322  US
2,415,337  Europe Standard Engraving
2,415,388  Europe Standard Engraving
2,415,391 Europe Standard Engraving
2,415,467  HK Standard Engraving
2,415,483  Europe Standard Engraving
2,415,570  US Standard Engraving
2,415,615  US Standard Engraving
2,415,617  US Standard Engraving
2,415,628  US Standard Engraving
2,415,688  US Standard Engraving
2,415,729  US Standard Engraving
2,415,852  US Standard Engraving
2,415,868  US Standard Engraving
2,415,922  US Standard Engraving
2,415,946  Europe
2,415,974  US Standard Engraving
2,415,988  Asia Standard Engraving

There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,416,000 and 2,422,999.

2,423,016  US Standard Engraving
2,423,040  US

2,423,068  Europe engraved LEICA CAMERA only
2,423,084  US  Engraving on back says: “LEICA CAMERA GMBH”
                            underneath  this, “Made in GERMANY”

2,432,091   Asia  Standard Engraving

2,423,097   US Engraving same as # 2,423,084

2,423,195  Europe Standard Engraving
2,423,207  US Standard Engraving
2.423.237  Europe  Standard Engraving
2,423,247  US Standard Engraving
2,423,248  Europe
2,423,249  Europe, Standard Engraving.
2,423,255  Canada Standard Engraving
2,423,271  Europe  Standard Engraving
2,423,307  US Standard Engraving
2,423,308  US Standard Engraving
2,423,327  US Standard Engraving
2,423,373  US Standard Engraving
2,423,398  Canada Standard Engraving
2,423,399  US Standard Engraving
2,423,408  US Standard Engraving
2,423.423  US
2,423,425  US Standard Engraving

2,423,476  Hong Kong Engraving on back says: “LEICA CAMERA GMBH”
                            underneath  this, “Made in GERMANY”  Same as #
2,423,084

2,432,509  US Standard Engraving

2,423,519  Hong Kong Engraving on back says: “LEICA CAMERA GMBH”
                            underneath  this, “Made in GERMANY”  Same as #
2,423,084

2,423,533  Europe Standard Engraving
2,423,574  Europe Standard Engraving
2,423,582  US Standard Engraving
2,423,592  Europe Standard Engraving
2,423,661  US Standard Engraving
2,423,664  US Standard Engraving
2,432,691  US Standard Engraving
2,423,733  US Standard Engraving
2,423,775  US Standard Engraving
2,423,975  US Standard Engraving

2,424,024 US Standard Engraving
2,424,092 Europe Standard Engraving
2,424,148  US Standard Engraving
2,424,176  US Standard Engraving
2,424,275  US Standard Engraving
2,424,331  US Standard Engraving
2,424,471  US Standard Engraving
2,424,475
2,424,512  US Standard Engraving
2,424,376  US Standard Engraving
2,424,500  Europe  Standard Engraving
2,424,647  US Standard Engraving
2,424,633  US Standard Engraving
2,424,702  US Standard Engraving
2,424,785  Europe
2,424,927  US Standard Engraving

2,425,000  US Standard Engraving

There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,425,000 and 2,431,000

2,431,315  US Standard Engraving
2,431,765  US Standard Engraving
2,431,816  US Standard Engraving
2,431,829  US Standard Engraving
2,431,875  HK Standard Engraving

2,432,008  US (?) Standard Engraving
2,432,500 US Standard Engraving
2,432,654 US Standard Engraving
2,432,692 US Standard Engraving
2,432,733  US Standard Engraving
2,432,899  US Standard Engraving
2,432,907  Europe Standard Engraving
2,432,983  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium

2,433,062  Europe Standard Engraving
2,433,067  US Standard Engraving
2,433,108  US
2,433,145  US Standard Engraving
2,433,148  US Standard Engraving
2,433,155  US Standard Engraving
2,433,221  HK Standard Engraving
2,433,222  US Standard Engraving
2,433,231  US
2,433,243  US Standard Engraving
2,433,253  US Standard Engraving
2,433,302  US Standard Engraving
2,433,303  US
2,433,410  US Standard Engraving
2,433,437  US Standard Engraving
2,433,470  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,433,480  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,433,535  Europe Standard Engraving
2,433,586  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,433,620  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,433,633  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,433,650  UK Standard Engraving
2,433,654  US Standard Engraving
2,433,675  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,433,795  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,433,798  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium

There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,434,000 and 2,456,000

2,456,023  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium
2,456,225  Europe .... Reported Stolen in Belgium

There is no evidence of cameras with S/N between 2,456,300 and 2,463,000

These were sold in late 1998.
2.463,906  US
2,463,909  Europe Standard Engraving
2,463,935  US Standard Engraving
2,463,940  US Standard Engraving
2,463,944  US Standard Engraving
2,463,962  US Standard Engraving
2,464,003  US Standard Engraving
2,464,011  US Standard Engraving
2,464,026  US Standard Engraving
2,464,030  US Standard Engraving
2,464,039  Europe Standard Engraving
2,464,077  US Standard Engraving
2,464,090  US Standard Engraving


If you see your camera listed with an incorrect S/N .... like I bungled a
few digits..... please email me
Note: Capitalization is as printed on the camera

A copy of these numbers is archived at Stephen Gandy’s site:
http://www.cameraquest.com/


Conclusions ( My opinion ):
Leica produces cameras in production batches ( maybe I should say they
produce serial numbers in batches).  You may find this expected, but it was
a good for me to get some hard data on the issue.  I do not expect to find
random S/N.
There were pre-production units that went to Canada and Asia.   Maybe
elsewhere.  S/N were random.  Theses are most likely modified M6 bodies.

They substituted older style covers marked with the Leica Camera GMBH
engraving in 2 runs.  These are exceedingly rare units..


Thank You.
May the Light be with you.
Long Live Leica M Cameras!

Frank Filippone
red735i@earthlink.net