Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/10/04

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Subject: Re: [Leica] The Wonderful PO versus Awful UPS
From: John Coan <>
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 21:05:12 -0400
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I always like it when the UPS man leaves stuff on the front porch when
I'm not home because I figure they are taking the risk of it getting
ripped off.  when I get home I have my stuff instead of having to stay
out of work or going to their depot.  You're a lawyer, do you know any
different?  Say someone had stolen your $8000 lens and the package said
signature required.  They have no signature.  Who makes good?  Now
you've got me curious.

Marc James Small wrote:
> At 05:11 PM 10/4/2000 -0400, Steve LeHuray wrote:
> >OK. I think I know what happened. Sherry was probably in her shop at the
> >back of the house and did not hear the PO man knock. Usually the PO will not
> >just leave a package (I think that is a PO rule) whereas UPS & FedX will
> >after they get to know you. Sherry has a safe place on her front porch where
> >they leave and pick up packages. Sherry can be a little testy about having
> >to go to the PO to pick up things.
> Well, UPS left an $8,000 lens on my front porch one day when I was at
> lunch, and I live in a high-crime neighborhood.  I will not voluntarily
> employ that bunch of losers again -- and, yes, "signature required" was
> right on the tag.  They just dumped it.  FedEx is even worse -- those bozos
> at Leica USA returned a repaired lens to me one time to a PO Box via FedEx,
> and it took FedEx THREE WEEKS to figure out where I was -- and I'm in the
> phone book, for heaven's sakes!
> Use the Post Office.  Visit the Post Office Box daily.  Avoid UPS and FedEx
> at all costs!  They are horrid!  (They probably are great for Eddie Bauer
> and Victoria's Secret, but I order from neither, alas!, so I cannot tell.)
> Marc
>  FAX:  +540/343-7315
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