Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/09/27

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Leica] Voigtlander Ultra-Wide - Heliar 12mm f/5.6 Aspherical]
From: Walter S Delesandri <walt@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:48:00 -0500 (CDT)

This is true, but Nikon was well known to PJs LONG before Ehrenreich
started enticing the pros away from Leica......hehehe....
Look at it objectively, without your Leica religion.....if it were 
1957, would you take an M3DS with a goggled Summaron?....or a Nikon 
SP with a 35 1.8 Nikkor?.....a "hektor" or a 105 2.5, perhaps the 
best all around lens EVER?.....what about the SP body?????...Leica 
didn't successfully motorize their RF cameras  till the M4-2, if you 
can call that piece of crap a motor......(yeah, I had 2 of 'em)...

BTW, the 1974 Toyotas were EVERY bit as good as I remember.....
I'm a pro-American, buy American, (or German, or Canadian) anti-eastern-
my-folks-didn't-fight-in-the-pacific-for-nuthin'...REDNECK....
who happens to drive a Nissan or a Toyota, and uses Nikons.....
CUZ THEY WORK>>>>>>>>

It wasn't the Japanese (they did other stuff)...and it wasn't 
Ehrenreich.....the stuff was simply better...AT THAT TIME...
EVERYBODY's building garbage today, it's just that Leica M is the 
best JUNK on the market.....

I'd like to see a "stripdown" report (A LA Norman Goldberg-l970s)
on the Bessa R.....I fully believe it to be a piece of crap, 
but I'd LOVE to be proven wrong....so Leica might get another 
taste of RF competition.....even tho they didn't learn a damn 
thing in the late 50s/60s.....

Walt

On
Tue, 26 Sep 2000 Krechtz@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/26/00 6:09:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> howard.390@osu.edu writes:
> 
> << Which, I assume, is a contributing factor to why Nikon became so popular
>  with photojournalists around that era.
>   >>
> 
> That - and the fact that Nikon (actually Ehrenreich, the US distributor, if 
> memory serves) was giving them the bodies.
> 
> Joe Sobel
>