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Subject: Re: [Leica] Bokeh vs. Nukeh
From: "Mark Rutledge" <markrut@ticnet.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:43:58 -0500
References: <B5CF7ACB.10FF%john@pinkheadedbug.com>

I hope you're not referring to me as not caring about bokeh, that was a
previous poster. I love the stuff.

Mark Rutledge

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Brownlow" <john@pinkheadedbug.com>
To: "LUG" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bokeh vs. Nukeh


> on 27/8/00 11:07 pm, Mark Rutledge at markrut@ticnet.com wrote:
>
> > Maybe bokeh has more to do with the "art" aspect of photography rather
than
> > the technical side. Emotion vs quantifiability. Images (painting,
photos..)
> > can move us in a way we cannot describe...beauty isn't measurable. Just
a
> > guess!
>
> I think bokeh is pretty measurable. Just no-one measures it yet. It's
pretty
> simple. You just look at the way the lens renders out of focus point
sources
> at various distances. You  measure the light intensity from the centre of
> the point outwwards along a radius. This spread function defines the bokeh
> of the lens, to a VERY good first approximation, since any image cam ne
> considered as a collection of point sources.
>
> That's it. Period. It's not difficult, complicated or airy fairy.
>
> The corollary of this is that a simple test for a lens' bokeh, as anyone
who
> cares about it knows, is to look at out of focus specular highlights.
> Diffuse circles = creamy bokeh. Hard edged circles = sharp transitions in
> the out of focus areas (is there a word for this?). Donut shapes (bright
> rings) = pronounced Ni-Sen bokeh, very painterly and textural, like the
lux
> 50.
>
> You don't care about bokeh? Fine. But my point of view is that a
> photographer should be in charge of every element of his/her craft. Grain,
> tonality, sharpness, bokeh and so on. Of course everyone knows the picture
> comes first. But photography is a craft as well as an art.
>
> Why do I care? I just developed twenty five rolls. Pretty much all of it
was
> shot wide open on either the 35/1.4 or the TE 90/2.8. I have way more
stuff
> out of focus than in focus. Thank God for nice bokeh!
>
>
> --
> Johnny Deadman
>
> http://www.pinkheadedbug.com
>
>
>

In reply to: Message from John Brownlow <john@pinkheadedbug.com> (Re: [Leica] Bokeh vs. Nukeh)