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Subject: [Leica] Burden of Proof??? be nice
From: "Birkey, Duane" <dbirkey@hcjb.org.ec>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:29:19 -0500

I should probably stay out of the middle of this....  But.... 

No offense Stephen..... but the lack of a Leica publication that states it
is multicoated doesn't mean it isn't....
And the lack of Minolta publication saying the two are the same design is
neither a basis to assume they are 
different....   It seems you are asking Erwin to prove the impossible (using
only publications that don't exist) 

Sort of like asking the White house for documents concerning "ahem"....

It seems your arguments are based on publications and not on physical
evidence....  Documents (or lack of them) are not proof of anything....
Haven't you ever gotten the instructions for assembling stuff where the
pieces didn't match the drawings... there are extra holes in a brackets and
more bolts than nuts... or pieces left over.... 

I'm not sure how one can resolve that....  But the logical thing would be to
compare side by side examples of each.... take them apart.... measure
stuff....  but even so.... if there is different glass used.... extremely
subtle differences may not constitute a different design...  But it would be
a more profitible and objective way of dealing with this.

I'm tempted to think that Erwin would have more access to official and
unnofficial Leica data than anyone else considering his recent projects and
writings for Leica......  and that info would be more useful than magazine
reviews and brochures....  

But Stephen isn't stupid either...    

You both have knowledge to contribute...    

So...  At least be civil and be nice to each other..... this is not an issue
that is worth self-infliciting damage on either of your reputations.... 

Duane





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Stephen Gandy asked Erwin...

I ask you again,  refer me to the Leica publication which states these
lenses
were multicoated.  Likewise, refer me to the Minolta publication which
states
the 40/2 CLE lens was identical to the earlier 40/2 CL lens.  If you can't,
it
seems your statements on these subjects are without merit.

I welcome your opinions, but when you claim something is factual, you should
be
able to back up that claim.

Replies: Reply from Stephen Gandy <Stephen@CameraQuest.com> (Re: [Leica] Burden of Proof??? be nice)