Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/08/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]When evaluating lenses and/or discussing optical properties or develoments, some background knowledge is most certainly necessary. Otherwise it might be the case that attention is drawn to the wrong aspects or even characteristics are mentioned as discriminative in a negative or positive way do not have the relevance or importance attributed to it. The Rokkor topic does bring home this observation with some force. The study of lens drawings is a case in point. Without knowledge of optical design, without knowing the optical specs of a particular lens, the comparison of two diagrams is very dangerous and most certainly will lead to misleading conclusions. Two identical diagrams can deliver significantly different performance and two digarmas that look different, might give comparable performance. The assumption that the diagram reflects optical quality is erroneous. If an optical designer is presented with whatever lens diagram and you would ask him/her to make any statement about performance or even assess differences, he/she would politely note that this is impossible without having access to much more important info. The noted difference of the third lens element between the Rokkor-CLE and the Summicron/Rokkor-C is obvious, assuming that the drawings are faithful. A Double Gauss lens is however, remarkably insensitive to small changes in glass thickness and without having any idea of the true radius of the glass and its type and the tracing of the rays, any conclusion, however tentatively, about design changes pointing to possible improvements, is a shot in the dark and because not based on analysis, inherently misleading. The only statement that can be corroborated is this: on the assumption that the diagramas are faithful, we note a difference in thickness of the third element, the purpose of which is unknown, without additional info. Coating is a second topic that is easily mis-interpretated. Single coating is an obvious technique, as is multiple layer coating: in the first case a lens surface is coated with one layer of a certain and in the second technique, several layers are deposited, from two to nine and even more per surface. ML-coating is not in itself better than SL-coating, it depends on the design, on the glass types used and more. As example, when using high refractive glass, a SL-coating is more efficient than a ML-coating. If the Summicron were SL-coated, but used high RI glass, the effect might bettetr than a Minolta lens with ML and low refractive glass. ML-coating is often also used as a means to correct the colour transmission of a lens, again depending on the glass used. Leitz used three layer coating on selected surfaces of some lenses already in 1957, but did not mention it specifically, as they gave this aspect no public relation relevance. So if Leitz notes of a lens that it has coating, the inference that this has to imply SL-coating is incorrect and even if a certain lens does have single coating, that is not a sure sign of inferior performance. The idea that MC-coating is more effective in flare reduction and repression of secondary images as SL-coating, is not true either as a general statement. And the claim of a Lugger that the Summicron-C must be a SL-coated lens, as his Summicron-C does have a significantly higher flare level than the Rokkor-CLE, is quite rash. Read what Mr Crawley, of BJP fame noted about the Summicron-C: "the lens is flare-free at full aperture". If the Summicron-C, as claimed, is of SL-coating type and as claimed, the SL-type is of inherently higher flare level, such a remark were hard to accept. The type of coating is a lens characteristic that merits attention, but only in the context of the rest of the design parameters and without this knowledge, the singling out of coating properties as distinctive elements of the relative performance of a lens, is more reminiscent to a marketing act than enlighenment and advice for the user. Erwin