Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/08/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]- ----- Original Message ----- From: Erwin Puts To: L U G Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 10:15 AM Subject: Summicron upgrade Hans Pahlen wrote in part: "Maybe the answer is that the lens was upgraded more than once? It would be very interesting to follow up the article in Viewfinder concerning the unofficial mid 1960:s upgrade. Maybe the later production rigid and DR:s are close to the 11817 Summicron in performance?" When doing research in the Solms archives for my new lens-book (due for September/October), this question was specifically tackled. There was a rumor, that some authoritive Leica expert, who refused to state his name, had identified that the later Summicron DRs were redesigned with slightly more contrast and slightly less resolution. First of all: if it were true, why should this person want to stay anonymous? Now for the truth: there is NO redesign of the Summicron 7 element version in whatever version. The rigid and the DR are from 1957 till 1969 absolutely identical in design and construction, glass types and whatever optical/mechanical parameter you wish to list. If there are differences in performance sample for sample, they are caused by higher tolerances in the manufacturing. One sample with a specified serial number may have a different fingerprint than another one, but is it rash, and very speculative to state that this state of affairs indicates a change in design. There are a few facts the Leica community does not want to hear. The 7 element Summicron is a good lens, but in all respects of much lower performance than the newer ones. There are no redesigns in this version, but against all stories that "they do not make lenses as they did in the past", the older production technology did indeed allow a higher percentage of tolerancing in the manufacture. So performance differences are not redesigns, but just the bandwidth of production tolerances. Viewfinder has its own editorial policy. When my research indicated that there is a fourth version of the Summicron 90mm (an early one) and could document this version with lens diagrams and serial numbers, Viewfinder did not publish this as my research was inconclusive (they said) and went against current thinking. But a rumor, that is unsubstantiated and brought forward by anonymous sources is published because it fits the Leica lore. Older Leica lenses are optically very good, and mechanically represent the pinacle of the classical way of designing and mounting lenses. They have a very solid feeling and they feel very good. Look below the surface and you will find a lot of manual adjustments and the level of tolerancing is way behind current lenses. In Leica Fotografie International I will publish two installments of an article about Leica lens manufacture that will substantiate this statement. You can admire the older lenses, based on its true value and what they stand for or you can become a spindoctor, who can twist every fact to fit a belief. Erwin