Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/06/19

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Subject: [Leica] WAS: DOESN'T work for leica! NOW: Noctilux
From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@home.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:18:09 -0700
References: <a0.607353e.2680043e@aol.com>

ARTHURWG@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Like my nine-year-old says, "Duh." Henning, all that is SO obvious. The point
> is that you'll have to show me a picture-- one that worth taking--  that
> couldn't be made with a 1.4 lens instread of a Noctilux, , both using Delta
> 3200.  The second point is that the NoctiLUX  is a  LUXury now that film is
> so much faster than it was in 1929. Arthur<<<<<<<

Arthur, I feel a tad that you're beating a dead horse,  for one thing,
neither the Noctilux nor 3200 film were available in 1930. Maybe I
missed your point.

There is a distinctly different image from a Noctilux to the Summilux,
it's what the Noctilux draws from a scene in it's light gathering manner
because at f 1.0 it just sucks light in and onto the film due to the
design factor.  And that's what the Summilux can't do at 1.4

And no amount of playing with developers or film can create the same
light gathering effect.  I would suggest the only person who can show
you the difference, is going to be yourself in a side by each shooting
test of the two lenses.

Because,  at the rate this conversation has been going, I find it hard
to believe any image on the screen is going to illustrate enough
difference to satisfy your requirements.  So it is with that in mind
that I make the suggestion,  do it yourself and see your own results.

>>>>>>> The second point is that the NoctiLUX  is a  LUXury<<<<< snip.....

Nope I've never considered it a luxury, merely an expensive tool that
allows me to shoot using slower films under adverse light conditions for
a quality of image that the higher speed films will not give! Regardless
of developer!  And I've tried and used a bunch of them in the quest for
solid images with the least amount of grain.  
ted

In reply to: Message from ARTHURWG@aol.com (Re: [Leica] it DOESN'T work well for leica!)