Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/06/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ted Grant wrote: > Bernard wrote: > > > I can't believe how you would need a nocti in a hospital. Isn't that people's > > workplace? Aren't there laws in the US stating how bright the light should be at > > people's workplace? Wouldn't a hospital be a well-lit place, practically per > > definition?! And the man has to use a nocti and ISO1600 film... who are you > > kidding! A 2.8 quality point and shoot would have done just as nicely, and it's > > a lot quieter yet.<<<<<<<<<<< > > Excuse' moi? Bernard, have you ever been in a heart surgery recovery > room at 2 a.m.? Like that's in the middle of the "dark time," you know > ...... night! Ted, as Jim Brick is so very ready to assert without really knowing what is going on, you indeed deserve all the respect in the world for your photography. So just such that you understand my following reply; I wasn't talking about you and shooting at night _at all_. If you had read what you reply to (no offense, but reading does help avoid misunderstandings), you would realize that I referred clearly (I had the quote included in my post, yet you snipped it) to Ken Lisaka's shooting of the birth of his son. I always thought that doctors delivered babies in more than the light of one single candle. But I could be wrong! > Now lets take your post one line at a time so there wont be any confusion in what > I'm saying! > > <<<<<<<I can't believe how you would need a nocti in a hospital. Isn't > that people's > > workplace? <<<<<<<<< > > Yes it is. Lots of people work there. Day and " Night! " Don't they flip on the lights when a woman gives birth? >> >>>>>>>And the man has to use a nocti and ISO1600 film... who are you > kidding! <<<<<<< > > Well now son, you better cut and run, because in my entire life I never kid when > it comes to photography! And if someone stated that I used ASA 1600 and a Noctilux, > then by God that's what I used. However, I do believe it was ASA 800 if you're > referring to my earlier post on Plate 69 in my book "This is Our Work." Again, I wasn't referring to your book at all. I was curious as to why one would need f1 with ISO1600 (it might even have been D3200) in the delivery room (the Lisaka setup). > >>>>> A 2.8 quality point and shoot would have done just as nicely, and it's > > a lot quieter yet.<<<<< > > Really? It seems you might be mistaken unless you're using a loud Leica M6! Perhaps a loud M3, but my Minilux is quieter. > And as far as any suggestion of a pointie-shootie and a 2.8 lens, sorry old buddy, > never happen in the above mentioned lighting conditions. Unless you like point and > shoot wiggly squiggly pictures. Once again, I trust you entirely as to your book not being possible with a 2.8. But in the delivery room when the action comes down? If I were a doctor, I would really appreciate some light to shine down there. > Possibly you might do better with a few years experience under your belt in the real > world of available light photography before you make unfounded remarks about other > photographers work. Actually at the moment you sound like some of the "visually > impaired editors" I've had to contend with over the years. No offense me old son! Ted, you're the master, no doubt about it. But if you had read my post completely, I might have had a chance at not being called "photo editor", visually impaired or otherwise. Bernard