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Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
From: "Lee, Ken" <ken.lee@hbc.com>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:04:44 -0400

Simon,

Doesn't that only apply to the US?

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Simon Lamb [SMTP:s_lamb@compuserve.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:43 AM
> To:	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject:	Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
> 
> It is a piece of white card that has the serial number and description of
> the lens.  You send it to Leica and get a passport back.  If it is not
> there
> then it may well be secondhand.
> 
> Simon
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Javad Fatemi" <jfatemi@gfigmbh.de>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:01 AM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
> 
> 
> >
> > Simon,
> >
> > I did not see such a passport, sorry, but I'm very new to this area. How
> > does it look?
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > *****************************************
> > Javad Fatemi
> > GFI Fax & Voice GmbH
> > Technical Department
> > Email: jfatemi@gfigmbh.de
> > Internet: http://www.gfifax.de
> > Tel: +49-40-3068100
> > Fax: +49-40-306810-10
> > *****************************************
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simon Lamb [mailto:s_lamb@compuserve.com]
> > Sent: Thu, May 18, 2000 10:05 AM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
> >
> >
> > Javad
> >
> > I would assume that if it were secondhand there would be no passport
> > papers
> > inside the box as the original owner would most likely have sent them
> > off.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Javad Fatemi" <jfatemi@gfigmbh.de>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I bought yesterday APO R-Elmarit 2.8/180 and I noticed the same very
> > > small white thing. I don't thing that it it was for example a second
> > > hand lens. I  took that, because I wanted it. For me is important to
> > > find this out, second hand or no. Any idea if there is a way...
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > *****************************************
> > > Javad Fatemi
> > > GFI Fax & Voice GmbH
> > > Technical Department
> > > Email: jfatemi@gfigmbh.de
> > > Internet: http://www.gfifax.de
> > > Tel: +49-40-3068100
> > > Fax: +49-40-306810-10
> > > *****************************************
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan Cardish [mailto:dcardish@microtec.net]
> > > Sent: Wed, May 17, 2000 4:04 PM
> > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm f/2 APO ASPH
> > >
> > >
> > > It probably makes no difference, performance wise.  On the other hand
> > > being
> > > hand made implies that someone in the factory should have held the
> > lens
> > > in
> > > their hands and noticed these things, just as you did.
> > >
> > > Dan C.
> > >
> > > At 03:35 PM 17-05-00 +0100, Simon Lamb wrote:
> > > >Hi
> > > >
> > > >I need an urgent response to this or I may miss the opportunity to
> > get
> > > the
> > > >lens.  I looked at a new 90mm f/2 APO ASPH today and noticed two
> > > things.  At
> > > >the side of the top curved element there was a small bit of white
> > > substance
> > > >trapped between the lens and the inside screw thread.  It was very
> > > small and
> > > >when I tried to brush it away there was a very fine and small hair
> > > attached.
> > > >The item seemed trapped and would not move and was, as I said very
> > > small.
> > > >
> > > >There was also a small mark on one of the internal elements.  I have
> > > seen
> > > >this on other lenses and they work fine.
> > > >
> > > >My question.  I did not take the lens because I figured for my £1,200
> > > pounds
> > > >I should get a lens without any marks or trapped bits.  Am I being
> > > overly
> > > >fussy and do you feel that this is within acceptable limits of
> > > acceptance
> > > >considering it is a Leica (hand made) and therefore subject to some
> > > >imperfections?
> > > >
> > > >I need a quick response before they sell the lens to someone else.  I
> > > have
> > > >already waited four weeks for it and, having held it gently in my
> > arms,
> > > I
> > > >want it back!
> > > >
> > > >Simon
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Jason Hall" <JASON@jbhall.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:00 PM
> > > >Subject: [Leica] Leicaflex SL MOT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Following earlier posts about SL MOT
> > > >> production numbers, I had the following reply
> > > >> from Leica UK to an email I directed at
> > > >> Solms:-
> > > >>
> > > >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> > > >> "The s/n 1278xxx was allocated to a batch of
> > > >> Leicaflex SL's in 1970. As was often the
> > > >> practice this number (not being used in that
> > > >> batch) would have been carried over to be
> > > >> used in a  later production  run, i.e. -
> > > >> Leicaflex SL MOT.   We have no details of any
> > > >> prototypes, and modification to the original
> > > >> SL is unlikely".
> > > >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> > > >>
> > > >> I followed this up with a phone call and
> > > >> their rep claimed that despite the fact that
> > > >> some of the serial numbers fell outside of
> > > >> the designated batches, there were, as far as
> > > >> he was aware only 980 SL MOT''s made,
> > > >> production was limited to 72-74, he also said
> > > >> that there were probably far less than 980 SL
> > > >> specific motor drives made.  Contrary to the
> > > >> above mail he said that some of the MOT's
> > > >> outside of the designated serial number
> > > >> runs may have been modified SL's.
> > > >>
> > > >> This doesn't really clarify anything, but I
> > > >> hope its of interest.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jason
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

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