Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/03/25

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Photos on the Web
From: Tina Manley <images@InfoAve.Net>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:07:35 -0500

I don't know what's going on with the internet tonight, but I sent this 
message at 4:00 this afternoon and it still hasn't appeared, so I'm trying 
again.  I hope you don't receive it more than once!


At 03:30 PM 3/25/00 -0500, you wrote:
Besides, most of the stuff I shoot is so specific it wouldn't
have much market potential anyway . . .

Bob (it's not an adventure, it's a job) McEowen


You might be surprised, Bob.  Some of the requests I get in for stock 
photographs are extremely specific and very esoteric.  I keep the copyright 
on everything, get model releases for everything, and file it all.  I've 
made sales in the last week from photos that you would never consider to be 
stock material.

I've stayed out of the debate about the photos on Hans' site because I can 
understand the arguments on both sides.  I have a couple of photos on the 
site and I also have a web site full of my own photographs which can easily 
be downloaded.  My site has a copyright notice on every page.  I get 
requests daily from people who want to use my photographs - ranging from a 
ten-year old who is doing a book report on Guatemala to action groups 
working to end the sanctions in Iraq.  If the photos are to be used for 
profit, I charge my usual rates for stock photography.  If they are to be 
used for causes that I support, I thank the person for respecting my 
copyright and ask them to print the copyright notice with each use of the 
photograph.  If I find that a photograph has been used without my 
permission, I send an invoice for triple the normal usage amount.  In 
twenty years of selling stock, I've only had to do that twice.  I like to 
believe that most people are honest and am not usually disappointed.  If I 
found that Microsoft used one of my photos from Hans' site, I would send 
them an invoice for triple the usage price.  Their blanket notice that they 
have the right to use any photo on the site would not stand up in 
court.  They would still have to compensate me for the use based on my 
contract.

Copyright and work for hire are extremely important topics being discussed 
by photographers on the Editorial Photo site.  I would urge anybody who 
sells photographs to join the EP group and support copyright issues.  Their 
site is:  http://www.editorialphoto.com/

Leically,

Tina
Tina Manley, ASMP
http://www.tinamanley.com