Re: [Leica] Cooltone (was Always use a control

[Ed Buziak <ed.buziak@camera-and-darkroom.co.uk>]

Christer... and Mike the Grump,

I'll pass on this one... except to say that even though I publish the only
specialised darkroom mag in the UK and have heavily featured their Warmtone,
Cooltone, XP-2 Super, Delta 3200, Ortho, DDX dev, plus a complete round-up
of their films in my last eight issues (some of which was written by "field
testers"), and, supplied them with images for several exhibitions during the
past 20 years including Photokina, and, wrote their 48-page technical
product brochure for the 1986 Photokina... they never bother to contact me
nowadays... in fact they haven't returned my calls in the past year. So I
guess I'll get no response from Ilford Imaging UK to your (Christer's)
query.

Being staunchly independent I don't expect a word of credit for promoting
their excellent products (an advert from them would be nice now and again...
d'ya agree Mike?) and I don't expect their products for free (Editor's
perks? Humph... I've bought a 1,000 sheets of Cooltone since the beginning
of December with my own money)...

...but that purchase illustrates how nice I think Cooltone is without
fretting about whizzo emulsions or secret developers. I don't have the time
nor, quite honestly, the technical expertise to go into the scientific "whys
and therefores" of any products, whether they come from Ilford Imaging or
Solms. I just get to know what I like through "feel" and gut reaction...
that's why Cooltone and an M3 plus D/R Summicron (keeping this on-message
for list lurkers) and HP5 in PMK are just the right combination for me
recently. I don't crave anymore for a 21 S/A (almost said 21 year-old <s>)
or Noctilust because I don't need them to complicate my life... an M3 'n 50
in one hand and an 8 x 10 glossy in the other is all I need... although an
advert from *them* occasionally would be the icing on the cake  ;-0

BTW: I just spoke to one of my tekkie-writers and he'd never heard of the
rumour either. 

Ed the Grump,
"Camera & Darkroom"

ed.buziak@camera-and-darkroom.co.uk

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>From: Christer Almqvist <christer@almqvist.net>
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Cooltone (was Always use a control
>Date: Tue, Feb 22, 2000, 11:29 am
>

>
>>BTW: How did you warm to the Ilford Cooltone I sent you... gone cool on the
>>Warmtone yet?
>>
>>Ed Buziak / Publisher (of hopefully the world's second-in-respectability
>>darkroom magazine <gg>)
>>"Camera & Darkroom"
>
>I hear that the Ilford Cooltone was developed, or should I say --created--
>to make sure there is no misunderstanding, as a tabular grain version of
>paper, with the objective of getting better grain and sharpness than
>current and old paper. However, Ilford did not go the whole way and did not
>formulate a corresponding paper developer that would have made the
>improvement clear to see with the naked eye. Have you noticed any
>improvement in this regard?
>
>My source tells me there is an eastern European manufacturer who puts film
>emulsion on paper, and developing these papers in the special developer you
>get non plus ultra prints.
>
>Johnston and Buziak: why have you not reported on this?
>
>