Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/02/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Let me first set a few things in the proper context. I published my test of the Tri-Elmar, long before CdI did, and I noted that the performance of the TE are as good asif not better than all previous generations of Leica lenses of comparable focal length. I also noted that while the TE challenges the image qulaity of the current asph35, 2/50 and 2.8/28, the TE could not equal the performance of these three lenses when the highest level of imagery is required. So I am not trying to deny that the asph35 is better than the TE at 35mm. At 5.6 however the differences are very small. This I already have reported upon and it is nice to see that CdI supports my findings. What I object to is the notion that the asph35, in a contest with the TE, should be qualified as a loser or even as "clearly not as good as". CdI uses an evaluation scale running from fair to good to very good and excellent. This is the same as the PopPhoto classification of A, B, C etc. As both magazines use identical testing equipment and use identical evaluation scales I always am puzzled why CdI should get the vote of confidence and PopPhoto be mistrusted. In my view when you say that lens A is good in the corners and lens B is very good, you get the same info as when someone says, lens A gets a C and lens B a B. Classifications are based on dividing lines, and so PopPhoto and CdI will tell you that a resolution of 30 l/mm ot CdI: an MTF of 30%) qualifies as good and a resolution of 31 l/mm (31%) as very good. Now this is ridiculous, No one can see the difference between the 30 and 31 lines or the 30 and 31% contrast transfer. But it is a logical consequence of their methodology and therefore it is not a good one. As I do not know when reading the CdI qualification if the difference of 'good' versus 'very good' is a small borderline difference or a big one (high end and low end of both classes) I am at a loss how to interpret the results. If you assume a big difference between the notion of good and very good you might be tempted to conclude that one lens is a winner. If you look at the real data you see a small difference, that does not support the conclusion. In the past the resolution figures were paramount and a lens that got 80 lines was invariably better than one that got 75 lines. (it still is in vogue in some quarters). Now the MTF is in danger of the same senseless number juggling. To be precise: the TE at 40lp/mm at 12mm image height (that is at a point on the negative 12 mm away from the center) has a value of 60 and 65 (tang and sag) and the asph35 at the same position has 60 for tan and sag. Which lens is better and what of this difference do you see in practice? Can you see it and when? Is the 12mm position representative of the overall image quality? Is the 15mm position more or less important? And if there is a difference in value between 40 and 50% is there any chance you will notice it. Well I am a firm promoter of quantified measurements as it makes for more objective discourse than the impressionistic semantic bubbles so favored in some quarters. But I am against numerical fetishism, that tries to impress by citing and comparing numeric values without the relevant background and context. To sum up: there is no sense at all in trying to read much practical difference in the small MTF numbers (tangentially 49% versus 58%) without being able to see the whole picture. There is also no sense in trying to extract big differences out of a measurement scale that is by definition nominal as good versus very good. The evaluation of the optical performance of a lens is just more complicated than you can imagine. And nor semantic eloquence nor numerical comparisons will be of any value to the practical photographer unless there is a clear reference and relation to the practical demands and technical proficiency of the user. Erwin