Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/02/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm kind of curious to know how the M mount (or any bayonet mount) could be patented after Contax had presumably done it (or introduced it to the public). I know I'm looking with U.S. patent law retrospect, but that would have never flown today. Perhaps the only reason it was "patented" in the U.S. was reciprocity with Germany, which perhaps had weaker patent standards. By 1952, the bayonet mount was present in Contaxes and Rollei filters, both of which predate the M3. Of course, today, any patent today only lasts 20 years - if today's regime had been in place in the 1950s, the Leica clones would have shown up in the 1970s. In a message dated 2/16/00 10:04:40 PM, austin@darkroom.com writes: << By the way, 1952 US Patent number 2,618,201 is far more interesting. That is an invention by August Brohl and Ludwig Leitz of an improvement to the bayonet mount, used subsequently for the M camera, wherein the invention is the addition of alignment indicators on the body and the lens. In other words, this is a patent on the red dots on the lens and body to help align the bayonet lugs. As disclosed, the bayonet mount itself was known and thus already in the public domain by 1951. [Austin] My 1949 Hasselblad has a red dot on the body, and a red dot on the lense, to aid in mounting alignment. Perhaps there is more to the patent than the red dots? - --------------------- </XMP> - ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <daemon@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Received: from rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (rly-zb03.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.3]) by air-zb03.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:04:39 -0500 Received: from mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [192.147.236.1]) by rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:04:27 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA10578; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10568; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from DRT1 (user-2ive20r.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.8.27]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA17476 for <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by DRT1 with Microsoft Mail id <01BF78C8.D8774270@DRT1>; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF78C8.D8774270@DRT1> From: Austin Franklin <austin@darkroom.com> To: "'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Subject: RE: [Leica] The Leica Instamatic and M Mount Patents Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:57:34 -0500 Sender: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Precedence: bulk Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>