Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/02/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>I never have figured out most "art" photos. I have to be moved by >content. Guess that is why the documentary traditions are the "art" I >love. > >I spoke to currator at the local La Jolla Museum of Comtemporary Art and >he explained that most of the art in the museum were really inside jokes >based on other art, so you had to know your art history to understand >anything. > >But I have to get them credit for showing some great art--Salgado's 250 >print exhibit of "Workers." But those images were based on inside >understanding of life and the human condition, not art. > >A critical difference. > >donal lugfolk thick and thin, i feel i have to weigh in on the issue of 'art' photography. while i agree that a lot of it is rubbish (the same is true of much 'non-art' photography, by the way), i certainly do not agree that so-called art photographers are all a bunch of sloppy or talentless photographers whose work is essentially incomprehensible unless we 'get' the inside jokes that inform it. to say this is to denegrate and oversimplify a very rich and complex thing (i.e. art), to misunderstand what that type of photography has to offer, and misrepresent what many artist photograhers are doing in their work. i don't think it is fair to imply that artists like ralph gibson, michael kenna, and nabuyoshi araki are essentially misguided or 'inaccessible' simply because their work does not follow the documentary tradition or seek to draw our collective attention to human suffering. to take up an anaolgy already used in this thread, some of us (myself included) do not particularly value the 'abstract expressionist' work of painters like jackson pollack, but that does not mean that all painterly abstraction is without value. i don't think that most of us would reject artists like mondrian, kandinsky, malevich, et al, simply because their work does not overtly address issues directly related to social realities. before some object that painting and photography are two totally differnt fields and what is true of one is not necessarily true of the other let me just say that similar arguments as are being developped in this thread are frequently made against abstract and 'avant-garde' painting, literature, etc. i.e. that it somehow or other lacks humanity, that it is inaccessible and, if not worthless, at least worth less than those other types of painting and literature that move us because we can recognize in them something we know and respond to profoundly: the human condition. i'm probably going to take some flak for this statement, but i feel that work by artists like ralph gibson is every bit as 'important' as that of artists like sebastiao salgado: it may not be 'socially relevant,' to use that term, but it is certainly 'culturally - even spiritually - relevant,' and that too is a part of the human condition that also needs to be addressed. now wait til i've donned my asbestos wetsuit before responding... guy