RE: [Leica] So much BS

["Tim Atherton" <timphoto@nt.sympatico.ca>]

By the way BD (aka that anonymous source DR. Blacktape?) are you the
Pulitzer Prize winning BD Colen I have come across of late - if you were
working at the Post, I am guessing you are.

Now that is a certain amount of journalistic credibility if you as me...

Tim A

PS, Is that your document a day in your life website? - neat idea!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of B. D. Colen
> Sent: January 20, 2000 2:30 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] So much BS
>
>
> JUST FOR THE RECORD:
>
> The WoodStein stories were based on unnamed "reliable sources." What you
> are referring to is the fact that during the Watergate reporting period
> "the boys" were told that anything they used from one source had to be
> confirmed by two additional sources - so that any charge was, in reality,
> coming from three separate sources. All, however, were "unnamed."
> \
> (In addition to having seen All The President's Men - and, yes, read the
> book - I happened to be a reporter on the Metro staff of the Post during
> that period, so I am somewhat familiar with the events as they
> transpired.)
>
> But, hey guys, what we're talking here is subjective opinions about the
> allegedly reliability of different camera models, NOT the fall of a
> President. Little sense of proportion, perhaps? :-)
>
> At 06:21 PM 1/19/00 -0800, you wrote:
> > >>Heh heh. Nice try. As I said to you privately, tell that to
> Woodward and
> >Bernstein!<<
> >
> >As I recall, Woodward and Bernstein used "unquotable" source to
> confirm what
> >their quotable sources told them. Unlike many of the
> "journalists" today who
> >go directly to print with the "unquotable."
> >
> >Bryan
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike Johnston" <michaeljohnston@ameritech.net>
> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:19 AM
> >Subject: [Leica] So much BS
> >
> >
> > > >>>Sorry, Mike, but that is so much BS.  By quoting "unquotable"
> > > sources, you set yourself up to automatically win, as your sources are
> > > beyond
> > > confirmation or refutation.  It's not fair and it's not tolerable in
> > > honest
> > > disputation<<<
> > >
> > >
> > > Heh heh. Nice try. As I said to you privately, tell that to
> Woodward and
> > > Bernstein!
> > >
> > > I call people as a journalist. (This isn't ego. I'm a magazine editor.
> > > People want to know if they're talking to me as an individual, or
> > > because I'm doing research for an article.) I ask them if the
> > > conversation is on the record (attributable quotes) or off the record
> > > (unattributed content only). If they say "off the record," I'm not
> > > goingto go blathering their names on the internet just to win an
> > > argument with you.
> > >
> > > This is _perfectly_ SOP for any journalist, and anybody who's
> even taken
> > > a Journalism 101 course will tell you. But nice try!
> > >
> > > --Mike
> > >
> > >
>
>