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Subject: Re: [Leica] Neutol plus
From: Gaifana@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:09:29 EST

Mark -

    How cheap does it need to be? Neutol Plus is $4.95 per liter of 
concentrate at B&H - dilute 1:9 and it will do 100+ RC prints per liter of 
diluted solution, which keeps about two weeks... so about $0.50 a liter, 
maybe $0.80 with shipping factored in... divided by, say, 200 RC prints. 
Jeez, considering that paper is $0.50 a sheet, you'd have to be nuts to want 
it to be more economical than $0.004 per print - and it would assume that 
it's worth your time to screw around with powders.

If there's something cheaper than that, let me know too!

In a message dated 1/5/00 3:55:50 PM, mrabiner@concentric.net writes:

<< Is there a darkroom list I feel a little guilty bringing up such a 
hard-core
darkroom thread but we are always seeing worse and this has something vaguely 
to
do with photography. I'm already on the RUG and the HUG I can just see the 
stuff
flying if I get on the DUG assuming there is one.

I picked up some "Neutol plus" in lieu of Dektol this week a liquid paper
developer from Agfa.
It has Isoascorbic acid sodium salt in it (sounds like Vitamin C to me) so I 
am
thinking of it as Xtol for my prints. Far off?
No mention of any Phenidone like substance though. There is a list on the back
for apparently poison related issues Of active ingredients.
But of course not in what amounts.
So what I want to know is (as I know the Photographers Formulary has Ascorbic
acid like stuff on their list) does anyone have a substitute equivalent 
formula
for this Neutol plus?. An Ascorbic acid based paper developer? I hate buying
these liquids and like to mix up my own stuff so I can put my own two cents in
and save a buck.
Mark Rabiner
Has anybody used this stuff it's got a nice Orange and white bottle! 1:9 or 
1:4?
Now if they just came out with Rodinol for prints we'd really be in business.
</XMP>

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