Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/12/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]This is a nice touch in Leicas - Canons seem to use a similar scheme with their reflected and projected LTM framelines. With the advent of projected LED, though, the current Leica system for framelines is less-compelling. An LED system would be able to show field size *and* the single frame for just about any lens. Plus, it would have fewer moving parts. The only trouble is that with the paired frame system on the later Ms, you would need a new system of lens lugs to trigger single framlines. I always thought it odd that Leica never used field-corrected lines in the M3 - - you have so few framelines, you could get away with projecting all three lines with parallax correction. Konica did this on the IIIM, which projected "shrinking" framelines for 35 and half-frame 35 at the same time. In a message dated 12/19/99 5:58:50 PM, jbcollier@home.com writes: << The bright line frames of the Leica M cameras are designed to show the picture area of a standard mounted slide (23mm x 35mm) at O.7 meter. This corresponds to about 93% of the full negative. As you focus further away, less of the picture area is included within the frame lines. With a 50mm lens focussed at 2.0 meters, the outer edges of the bright line frames show the picture area. When the 50mm lens is focussed at infinity the picture area is approximately the outer edges of the bright line plus three frame line widths all around. Leica decided it was better to be surprised by more than dismayed by less. Now if PopPhoto measures viewfinder coverage at infinity, then 77% sounds pretty accurate. This information comes from the book by Gunter Osterloh, Leica M, Advanced School of Photography. John Collier Mr. Meier wrote: > That Pop Photo article that is so glowing about the M6 TTL and lenses has a > nasty little sidebar (p. 74) that says the .85 M6's viewfinder frames show > only 79% percent of the on-film picture area, and that the M6 shows only > 77%! That means there will be almost a third more area on the negative than > what the vf frame is showing. Can it possibly be that bad? Couldn't Leica > make a viewfinder that's a little more precise than just 77%? </XMP> - ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <daemon@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd03.mail.aol.com (v67.6) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:58:50 -0500 Received: from mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [192.147.236.1]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v67.6) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:58:42 1900 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA15824; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (imail@ha2.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.2.51]) by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA15814; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [24.65.158.175] by mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991219225007.PPWH10361.mail.rdc1.ab.home.com@[24.65.158.175]> for <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:50:07 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:45:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: M6 Viewfinder Shows only 77%? From: John Collier <jbcollier@home.com> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Message-ID: <B482AE02.8EF%jbcollier@home.com> In-Reply-To: <000901bf49df$4fb59c60$3b21a0d8@usf-1159-14> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Precedence: bulk Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>