Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/23

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Subject: FW: [Leica] Squares and sabotage - RESEND
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:14:53 -0000

I'm resending this as I apparently screwed up the URL the first time....and
since I know everyone was rushing to look ( ;-) ) I don't want you
inconvenienced....

Well, folks, it ain't Dorthea Lange, or anyone else famous for that
matter...but take a look if you're interested at
http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Commu
nity=Leicausers&ID_Topic=13

I just posted Cell Phone and Under Pressure, both of which I'd call
environmental portraits. These were taken of pharmaceutical company folks -
Under Pressure is an MD VP, and Cell Phone is a PR staffer - in a company
"war room" and a big medical meeting.

B. D.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of
> Eric Welch
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 3:38 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us;
> leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Squares and sabotage
>
>
> At 12:32 AM 11/23/1999 -0800, Bill Larsen wrote:
> >I think you need to think a little bit about what a portrait
> is.  Perhaps you
> >have picked up too many shiboleths at Missouri.
> Shibboleth to you, fact to many people.
>
> Maybe you, and not I, needs to understand what the difference
> between a
> documentary photographer and a portrait photographer is.
> There's a reason
> we use both terms to distinguish two types of photographers.
>
> As for Dorthea Lang, she is a great documentary photographer,
> but she also
> posed a lot of her photos, such as Migrant Mother. But that
> was long before
> the ethical standards of photojournalism had been thought of.
> Documentary
> is made up of candid photos, portraits, landscapes,
> interiors, what have
> you. But you don't call a landscape candid any more than you
> do a portrait.
>
> Candid portrait is like saying a Leica lens is "clear."
> People know what
> you mean, but it's not a good way to put it. To me, being a
> professional
> for quite a while now, when I do a portrait, it means I've
> stopped doing
> candid photography. That's how my colleagues use the term.
> You can stretch
> the term portrait to mean so many things that is has no
> meaning at all.
> Such is the oxymoronic term "candid portrait."
>
> Eric Welch
> Carlsbad, CA
>
http://www.neteze.com/ewelch

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