Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/11

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Subject: RE: [Leica] A Golden RF age
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:26:39 -0000

Mark - Neither you nor I are ever "obnoxious." ;-)

B. D.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Mark
> Rabiner
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:45 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] A Golden RF age
> 
> 
> "B. D. Colen" wrote:
> > 
> > Mark - Try to forgive me for being an s.o.b., but there're 
> a couple of
> > references in your post that give me real pause...i.e.
> > 
> > "they caught us with our pants down in the 50's"
> > and
> > "we are way ahead of Nikon"
> > 
> > I agree that Nikon caught Leica with ITS corporate optical 
> pants down in the
> > 50s, and would also agree that Nikon is going to have to go 
> a long way to
> > top Leica's current ASPH lenses...but "we" and "us."
> I thought that was exactly what I was saying!
> > 
> > Hey folks, Leica is a publically held corporation in 
> business for one
> > purpose and one purpose only - make money for the share 
> holders. "We" aren't
> > Leica. We are a bunch of persons who enjoy using the cameras this
> > corporation manufacturers. And "we" are much better off if 
> we realize that
> > that corporation doesn't give a rat's rear about "us," 
> except in so far as
> > we buy its products.
> > 
> > Okay, Mark...fire at will! :-)
> I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get mad about you don't 
> like us talking about
> Leica like Leica is us?
> We all know we are not Leica and I am not but are under the 
> illusions we have
> it's best interstests at heart.
> In some senses it's "we" the people who speak for Leica 
> against "them" the
> people who speak for Nikon or whoevers list (NUL?)or they are 
> the shooters.
> Whatever the respective relationships with the companies may be...
> I'm a total Leica guy. I'm on Leica's side. I do use other 
> cameras, Rollei's and
> Hasselblads and I just finished shooting a few minutes ago 
> some mushrooms on my
> front driveway strip with my Nikon and my 105 and TTL flash 
> and a cord but my
> heart it is obvious is mainly with Leica and I don't presume 
> to really represent
> them I would assume people here would know that.
> Our hearts are with Leica I don't think the "we" is overly obnoxious.
> I hate it when the waiter says "enjoy" 
> just to change the subject. Gota tip'em though.
> Mark Rabiner :)
>