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Subject: RE: [Leica] Big bucks
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:55:31 -0000

25 MB for color, but not for B&W - There you're talking somewhere between 5
and 11 MB...and the point that appears to be missed here is the only negs
that have to be scanned are the negs you're going to print digitally---not
all your negs...Having started this thread off some eons ago, I was making
the point that the longevity of the digital prints is really irrelevant,
because it's so easy to reproduce them...but all you have to reproduce are
prints you printed...or something like that....

B. D.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Derek
> Zeanah
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 12:19 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big bucks
>
>
> But scanning at "just" enough quality to print 8x10's takes,
> what, 25MB per
> image?  So now you're down to 25 images per cd, or 2,600
> CD's. That's $4,800
> in blanks, and at one hour per CD to burn each CD you're
> looking at almost a
> year of 8-hour days of burning CD's.
>
> That's a bit more significant, and still isn't enough to
> print 16x20's.
>
> (I have no vested interest here -- I just thought your
> numbers were wildly
> optimistic.)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Francesco Sanfilippo <fls@san.rr.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big bucks
>
>
> > That's still NOT big bucks.  65,000 images at 200KB each would fill
> > exactly 20 CD-R discs, with 3,250 images fitting on each disc.  You
> > can buy a blank CD-R (in quantity) for under $2.00.  This comes out
> > to be a total expense of $40 every time you want to duplicate your
> > entire set, and this fugure would increase by $2.00 every time you
> > add another 3,250 images to your portfolio.
> >
> > Average the CD cost over 5 years and it costs you $8 per annum.
> > Of course, you need a CD-R burner, which can be had nowadays for
> > $200.  Average it over a 5 year period and it costs you $40
> per year.
> > This is a total cost of $48 annually to maintain your
> digital archive.
> > If we can afford Leica, we can afford $4 a month to archive images,
> > n'est-ce pas?
> >
> > Francesco Sanfilippo
> > fls@san.rr.com
> > Webmaster, System Administrator,
> > http://www.photorealm.com/
> > http://www.glossymedia.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jonathan Borden <jborden@mediaone.net>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 2:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Big bucks
> >
> >
> > > Mike Johnston wrote:
> > > > >>>Worried about the longevity of the CD? So copy it
> every couple of
> > > > years.
> > > > We're not talking big bucks here.<<<
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh yes we are. I've made over 65,000 negatives in my
> life, and I'm
> only
> > > > 42. (And not even a terribly heavy shooter.)
> > > >
> > > > --Mike
> > > >
> > >     One of the great things about Leica equipment is that nothing
> becomes
> > > obsolete. This is in stark distinction to digital
> electronic equipment
> > which
> > > is designed to become obsolete in "Internet time". In my
> mind, Leica is
> > the
> > > direct opposite to digital. Canon is where digital is at
> (and there are
> > also
> > > many great things about being digital). It is no big deal
> to change your
> > > lens mount every few years because you plan to buy a
> completely new
> system
> > > every few years regardless. So the two cameras which
> spend the most time
> > > sitting on my shelf are my Canon F-1 and my Sony Mavica,
> the F-1 because
> > it
> > > is sooo much louder than the EOS and has no real benefit
> except that it
> > does
> > > work without batteries (but I already have my M6 for that
> purpose :-)
> And
> > > the Mavica which serves its only purpose when I need to
> e-mail pictures
> to
> > > someone, or if I am giving a talk and I need to digitize
> something onto
> my
> > > laptop (so it is really the combo of a Polaroid and a
> compact scanner).
> > >
> > >     Even though CDs are somewhat cheap (say $1-2) for
> writeable, that's
> > not
> > > the point. Who wants to deal with figuring out what to
> rewrite? I just
> had
> > a
> > > terrific ciba print made of a 15 year old kodachrome
> discovered at the
> > > bottom of a box! In the same box is a large computer tape
> I have no idea
> > of
> > > how to deal with. oh sure I *could* find a VAX somewhere
> and transfer it
> > > onto a CD but who wants to deal with that. The chrome is
> usable in the
> > same
> > > format as on the day it was created. The Omega D2
> enlarger I use is
> > probably
> > > 25 years old and still uses the same format lightbulbs.
> > >
> > > Jonathan Borden
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>