Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/02

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica Users digest V13 #8
From: "O'Rourke, Joel, Ctr. OASD/C3I/Y2K" <Joel.O'Rourke@osd.pentagon.mil>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:47:24 -0500

Interesting interpretation, Rob. But I meant that the environment for street
photography is generally *photographically* hostile: uncontrollable
lighting, plenty of random, background activity, that sort of thing. I guess
one could extend the "hostile" notion to the subjects themselves, but that's
not what I meant.

As for asking permission of one's subjects, I don't have an easy answer. Too
much depends on circumstance: someone in a crowd, looking up at a building,
taken from a distance vs. a close encounter with a street musician. The
former would, it seems to me, not require permission, while the latter may.

Best,

Joel


Rob Wrote:

Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:56:53 EST
From: Ruralmopics@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: Street Photography debate

In a message dated 11/1/99 3:20:38 PM, Joel.O'Rourke@osd.pentagon.mil
writes:

>Therein lies the unique
>appeal (for me, anyway) in street photography: being constrained to
>photograph the "decisive moment" in a hostile environment, while paying
>attention to formal constraints of composition, lighting, etc.

Maybe I'm just not in tune but I find the "hostile environment" comment 
interesting. Everyday newspaper and magazine photographers document the
lives 
of very rough characters in very rough environments. I've seen published 
photo stories on homeless people, drug addicts, gang members, you name it, 
it's been done -- just look at the Pictures of the Year annual. They do this

with full knowledge and participation of the subjects and still make
telling, 
honest photos. So is the idea of so-called street photography that one must 
make pictures without the subject's permission? Why is this? Please don't 
tell me it's because of camera awareness -- like I say, look at the Pictures

of the  Year annual . . . 

Bob (Just ask) McEowen