[Leica] RE: AA outcry

[Jim Brick <jimbrick@photoaccess.com>]

Well Ted, you know, once something has been said and a label affixed to it
(by whomever) it will develop a life of its own and mutate into
unrecognizable jibberish.

But what you said is exactly correct. Us old farts have seen this shine
before and can smell it right out of the box. It is not going away. It's
not going to get any better. And even though I'm not in the direct line of
fire, I see that it is making blithering idiots out of what used to be
smart folks.

The worst thing is that I see intelligent people answering questions that
are direct contradictions of either previously asked questions or
statements. It's as if there is some kind of spell that keeps folks from
remembering what was just said the day before.

Mad dogs do wag their tail.

You and your old motto have company. Me!

Jim

>Larry Kopitnik wrote:
>
>>Actually, the LUG generally responds positively and well to newbie
>>questions. I recall many such welcoming and informative posts from Ted over
>>the years. And I generally received encouragement following my first post
>>several years ago. It's the overwhelming number and repetitive nature of
>>Anthony's posts which make them, to some (many?) of us, objectionable.
>>
>>Ted's outcry is well put. Erwin's response is well reasoned. A less
>>prolific output from Anthony, with a willingness to let a matter rest,
>>would be well taken.>>>>>

At 02:39 PM 9/27/99 -0700, Ted Grant wrote:

>Hey guys, Come on!  I don't think it was an outcry.  It was straight from
>the shoulder experience for Anthony to learn how to use the world's
>greatest point and shoot camera....an M6!
>
>Look through the view finder, light the lights and shoot! What's so
>outcrying about that KISS how to?
>
>It doesn't take three weeks of incessant posts to figure out how to use an
>M6! There has been a zillion offerings of help and he keeps coming back
>with some pretty strange things,
>
>The guy isn't stupid!  But we're making ourselves, some of us, look stupid
>because he's doing a number on damn near everyone on the LUG! And we end up
>yapping at each other and finger pointing where it rarely happened before.
>
>Like who's the culprit here? Is he the only guy in step and the rest of are
>a gaggle of dummies because we keep feeding him helpful things and he keeps
>coming back with more idiot questions about the same thing he has just
>received the answers for!
>
>Before we had his constant drivel, brilliant or not, we were managing, a
>bit squeaky some days, but think about it; When did all this extra heavy
>duty rot start setting in?
>
>C'mon, for those of you who remember Odmund, hell he was a pussy cat
>compared to Anthony.
>
>Take a real hard look at what's happening on the LUG! Who's slapping who?
>We are doing it to ourselves over a guy who is purported to be a "newbie!"
>
>He's not as stupid as he lets on folks! Nobody can keep coming up with the
>things he does, if they were stupid!  This is a kind of sucker punch and
>we're falling for it like kids in a free candy store!
>
>I've had an offer to help set my machine to "filter" whatever that is, and
>If that means not having myself go into the willies over this nonsense, so
>be it! Certainly have to stop it before I loose my credibility, if that
>hasn't already happened over this Anthony chap. He's going to be outta my
>machine before he gets in!
>
>Unfortunately this isn't my style with people, to mouth off as I have and
>as I'm  doing  right now, and that's damn unfortunate for me. After all
>these years one would think I could just slough it off like rain drops, but
>when it becomes a deluge, one must take action or get an umbrella!!
>
>The worst part? Anthony doesn't feel the anger and annoyance he creates,
>only we that are stupid enough to allow our emotions over ride our
>intelligence!
>
>Just remember my old motto:
>
>"I've become a mean assed son of a bitch! God wont have me! The devil wont
>take me! I'm here forever! So piss off!" Then smile! :)
>
>OK I'm done!
>ted
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