Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/22

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica underwater cameras
From: "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@hfx.andara.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:24:47 -0300

Alex:

A scenerio for the use of a 180 on a Nikons.  A navy seal either goes via
scuba or zodiak to a target they want intelligence info on.  He surfaces,
takes the pictures and then swims away underwater.  Perhaps it is the 180
APO converted for the Nikonos and he is using infrared B&W film to cut
through the mist and get some important details of a weapon system the
enemy has on shore or on one of their ships. 

My assumtion is that since the lens was fixed at infinity, they were
shooting distant objects, something you do not do underwater.  I don't have
a clue why you would want an underwater panoramic camera unless they wanted
pictues of the underwater shape of a ship or sub that could emcompass a
large area of the underwater profile in one frame.

Regards,

Robert

 At 10:05 PM 9/22/99 +0100, Alex Hurst wrote:
>Robert Stevens wrote:
>>
>>Leica has not made a Nikonos equvalent, but I have seen Leica ELCAN lenses
>>in Nikonos mount.  These were 180mm telephotos set at infinity and mounted
>>in a pressure proof case.  I assume for the Navy to use in their work.
>>Elcan also had an underwater panorama camera, probably once again developed
>>for the Navy.
>
>Now, LUGnuts, see what I mean? For me (and/or IMHO) that is a fascinating,
>relevant piece of information that I would never have learnt anywhere else
>but on the LUG.
>
>Question is, what on earth do you shoot with a 180mm underwater?
>
>Most SCUBA people are into extreme wide-angle for purely practical
>purposes. I certainly can't see any reason to use my N****os 80/4
>underwater, tho' it's certainly underwater capable.
>
>Maybe 180mm lenses were useful for close-ups of the relevant hardware on
>Russian subs....
>>
>>Nikon could make the Nikonos, but not glass with enough resolving power to
>>be used for spy photos by Navy Seals or the like :-)  Isn't it for the
>>glass that we use Leicas?
>
>Yep. Give me a choice between my trusty M2 plus ancient 35/1.4 Summilux
>(and latterly plus Tom A. Rapidwinder), and the 35/2.5 Nikonos Nikkor, and
>I'd choose the former every time.
>
>Except, of course, in a deluge or on a sandy beach.
>
>Slan
>
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