Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I asked Mr. Kobayashi what his target market was and he admitted that it was both the Cosina Camera and also the Leica market. There is a resurgence in interest in the screwmount cameras in Japan, mainly because the M-cameras have become too expensive, while the older 3F's and 3C's are reasonably priced, and, lets not forget that both the Canon Rangefinder and the Nicca/Leotax cameras used 39mm thread and these are quite plentiful in Japan. Historically Japan has always produced a multitude of 39mm screwmount lenses and I always wonder what would have happened if the original Nikon rangefinder had been a screwmount camera (there exists several prototypes of the Nikon1 in screwmount). Cosina, Ricoh, Konica, Minolta and Kobalux are just doing what Canon and Nikon did in the 50's, provide a variety of lenses for a common lensmount. The name Voigtlander belonged to Ring-Foto in Germany (a large chain of camerastores) and Cosina has a 30 year long relationship with this chain, so the Voigtlander name was not that far out as a choice. It is also a name that carries a certain cache in optical circles. The Heliar, Skopar, APO-Lanthar and Ultron were always associated with quality optics. I asked why the Color-Heliar did not come out as an Apochromatic lens with the APO-Lanthar label, Mr. Kobayashi said that he is saving this name for something special! We were also shown some smaller accessories that probably will appear later this year and I can't wait for one of them. Sorry, can't tell you what it is, sworn to secrecy and all that, but it is cute! My testing of the 50 and the 75 so far has only stretched to a couple of rolls of Astia in Tokyo, but I did shoot 20 rolls of Tri-X and the same amount of Neopan Presto 100 while there and this film is currently awaiting processing. I will post my impressions on the LUG as soon as I have done that. I have also made a 50/1,5 Nokton available to our own Erwin Puts for testing and he should have it in a couple of days, so he can give us the technical end of the performance. If you think that the meeting with Mr. Kobayashi was a stiff, formal meeting, think again! We all used blackboards, papers on the table, napkins trying out ideas, there was a lot of "What if" going on and the meeting went on for 6 hours! For those of you who wonder, I did pay for the lenses fair and square and I would not have liked it any other way either. I did get a pricebreak, but they were no "freebies" and it takes more than ice-coffee to buy my opinion. It is true that I like what I have used of Cosina's products so far and I don't think that either the 50 or the 75 will disappoint me and the availability of reasonably priced quality screw to bayonet adapters and bright line finders certainly has not done so either. For those of you forever hunting the obscure, a small volume of 75/2,5 were mis-engraved with the close focus marked 5,3 feet rather than 3,5 feet and although most were recalled some had already been shipped. Good hunting! Another piece of Cosina trivia is that the 15/4,5 Heliar and the 35/1,7 Ultron were designed by the same designer and the 25/4, the50/1,5 and the75/2,5 came from another Cosina lensdesigner (do we see a 100/2,5 in the future for symmetry?). I also had the opportunity to spend several evenings with Ricoh's Chief Lensdesigner; Noriya Tanimoto and we talked about the 28 Asph and the 21 Asph. Both lenses are out of production and were only made in volumes of 2000 and 3000 respectively. There are still available in some stores in Tokyo, but the black version is scarce and brings a premium price now. There is obviously a chance that Ricoh will start developing a rangefinder camera too and also a 35/2 lens and maybe something longer! The elusive Konica Hexar-M is still around but no one admits to having seen the latest version, the bet is that it will be released at PMA in 2000 with four lenses. I did handle the Leica "countermove" to all this screw mount stuff, the 50/1,4, the 50/2 and the 35/2 Asph in screwmount and chrome finish. This is a special order done for Lemon Camera CO in Tokyo and available from them. Not cheap mind you, the 50/1,4 is Yen 200,000 (about US$ 1900), the 50/2 Yen 120,000 (US$ 1150) and the 35/2 Asph Yen 175,000 (US$ 1660). Lemon CO does not normally ship Leica Products overseas, but as these lenses are a special order item they are an exception to the rule. Lemon also stocks the full Cosina line of products and you can now use their web page for further information http://www.lemon-co.co.jp. The website should be up and running this week according to the people I talked to there. It is interesting to see the new vigour in the design and production of small, high quality rangefinders in Japan. There seems to be a niche developing between the current P/S cameras and the ever more complicated and heavy SLR's and there seems to be enough enthusiasts around to support this market. It of course bodes well for Leica, whatever new rangefinder that is coming out, it will not be a Leica and soon the users will gravitate towards the best one of them all, but also be able to do this without paying a penalty in the form of non-compatible lens-mounts or obsolete lenses. All of which will ultimately benefit Leica. So I have the 75/2,5, but that does not mean I am selling my 75/1,4, there are situations that only that lens can handle, but I also thought about hauling that lens around in Tokyo in 33+C/85% humidity and I was ever so grateful for the 230 grams weight of the 75/2,5. Slightly jetlagged still, Tom A Tom Abrahamsson www.rapidwinder.com