Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I have followed the debate on the R line's future or lack thereof with interest and now feel the urge to throw in my 2 Belgian Francs. I am a relatively recent convert to Leica, having bought my first M6 in April 98 and my first Leica SLR (a Leicaflex SL2) earlier this summer. The things that attracted me to the Leica in general and the M6 in particular were (not necessarily in that order): 1) Superb mechanical quality=durability 2) Lack of automation=total user control 3) No battery dependence (except meter)=dependability 4) The best lenses available for any 35mm camera 5) Classic design 6) Simplicity Note that I omitted rangefinder focusing from the list--I had no prior experience with rangefinders and discovered only AFTER using the M6 for some time how good and reliable this system is. When I decided to buy into the SLR line earlier this year, I was looking for more or less the same things in a Leica SLR. The natural choice for me among the current models was the R6.2, not the R8. However, after seeing some LUGger web sites (particularly Doug Herr's) and reviewing various correspondence, I decided to go with the older Leicaflex models. For the price of one R6.2 body I got two Leicaflex bodies (an SL and an SL2) plus the 60mm macro Elmarit. Nevertheless, I can imagine that when I come across some serious money I might add a 6.2 to the outfit. The R8 is another story. To me, it is neither fowl nor fish, and this is perhaps the reason for its lackluster sales. The camera does not appeal to amateurs like myself who are looking for the traditional Leica attributes listed above; it looks modern, it is electronic, has a lot of bells and whistles, and the reliability appears a bit questionable (I am making the last statement based on the many posts here on the LUG). Sure, the lenses are second to none, but they can be mounted on a R6.2 or an older model too. As has been made abundantly clear, many professionals shun the R8 for the opposite reason, namely that it has not enough bells and whistles compared to the competition, chief among the deficiencies being autofocus and a motor drive. So, in summary, I do not see an obvious market segment to which the R8 would appeal. I realize of course that there are professionals who use the R8 with excellent results (Ted, for example) or amateurs (e.g. Pascal), but evidently there just aren't enough of such people to make the R8 a viable product as it stands now. The M6 is a unique camera, fulfilling a need in the marketplace and is consequently selling well. The R8 suffers from very unclear positioning and is languishing. I would be interested in knowing how R6.2 sales are doing, if someone has that information. Nathan - -- Nathan Wajsman Overijse, Belgium General photo page: http://members.tripod.com/belgiangator Belgium photo page: http://members.xoom.com/wajsman