Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/08/12

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Old Leicas and better than the new "Junk" Cameras
From: "Guido Soprano" <guidosoprano@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:08:27 EDT

Greg,

If you belive in statistically insignificant samples, Bullshit.

I have and profesionally use 4 M3's, 4 M4's and 2  M6's. The M6's are 
quicker and cheaper to fix, and need fixing less than the older stuff.

And yes, I've had the m3's and 4's from their birth. Wish I had Ted's 
brimstone!

GS


>From: "Greg.Chappell" <Greg.Chappell@bankofamerica.com>
>Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>To: leica-users <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Old Leicas and better than the new "Junk" Cameras
>Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:27:25 -0500
>
>There ARE more products today made better than comparable products of 50
>years ago (cameras included), but just ask people like Sherry Krauter at
>Golden Touch Camera Repair if that applies to M4's vs. the new M6's being
>produced today, comparing part to part. You can probably reverse, to some
>extent, what you said below. I own both an M6 and M4 and LOVE both, but the
>M4 IS a better built camera. The super accurate meter makes the M6 more
>convenient, but in most situations I can come close enough without the 
>meter
>or using an incident reading, and that makes shooting much faster for me.
>
>Greg
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rrubey19 [mailto:rrubey19@idt.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 4:49 PM
>To: leica-users
>Subject: [Leica] Re: Old Leicas and better than the new "Junk" Cameras
>
>
>With reference to the great reverence that some Leica fans have for the
>quality of old Leicas, there has been considerable progress in materials 
>and
>manufacturing in the last fifty years.  Evidence of this was illustrated
>when a British restoration organization rebuilt an Auto Union race car a 
>few
>years ago (Auto Union is now Audi).  The Auto Union was one of the German
>great racing cars in the era immediately before World War II; their only
>competition was Mercedes-Benz.  Must of the cars were lost but a few have
>been found in Easter Europe after the collapse of the Soviet Union.  When
>one of these newly discovered pre-war cars was being rebuilt, some aluminum
>engine parts were beyond restoration so new ones had to be fabricated.  The
>old parts were sent to a laboratory for analysis so faithful replicas could
>be made.  The laboratory replied that the type of aluminum used in that
>pinnacle of German engineering in the late 1930s  had about same qualities
>and strength that is used today in making cheap lawn furniture.


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