Re: [Leica] "Filters for the 75/1.4M indoors?"- Certainly! Especially for negatives!

["Dan Post" <dwpost@email.msn.com>]

BD-
Well, the "New" T400-CN has been replace with the B&W Plus Select film....
The T400CN had an integral mask, but it was light and didn't print as well
on colorpaper.
The new stuff looks and acts like Gold 200 on a color printer- I use the
same Gold channel on the printer when I print it.
Since the image itself is a gray dye, the only differenc in printing on B&W
paper would be the effect of the mask in that the overall speed of the paper
would probably be reduced. I haven't yet used it to print B&W paper.
I would suggest that if you are printing to B&W paper, that the Ilford XP-2
would serve better as it has no mask and looks exactly like a B&W negative.
The new Kodak stuff is made to print on color paper for 'down and dirty'
results- if they continue with the T400CN, I am sure it will print better on
actual B&W paper....
I'll post some results when I get a chance to try it in the darkroom....
Dan
- ----- Original Message -----
From: B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] "Filters for the 75/1.4M indoors?"- Certainly!
Especially for negatives!


> Dan - If I may tap your expertise...
>
> How does the "new" Kodak TCN look compared to HP2 Super? And does it print
> on black and white paper better/easier, than XP2? In fact, is it more
> difficult to print on black and white paper than a traditional black and
> white film, say TriX?
>
> Thanks..
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Dan Post
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:15 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] "Filters for the 75/1.4M indoors?"- Certainly!
> Especially for negatives!
>
>
> AS a photofinisher, in a one hour lab, I have to sqeak up, at this point.
> The problem with balancing color negative film to tungsten, without
filters,
> is that the blue sensitive layer is usually so underexposed as to have
very
> little information on it.... this is the yellow dye layer, and you can add
> as much yellow filtration- in the negative process of printing this yields
> blue or minus yellow in the print, and if the information is not there, it
> is JUST NOT THERE! You get an overall blue pgoto that looks like.... crap!
> Either over exposed the film so you get SOME information on the blue layer
> or use a blue filter- either way, you reduce the efective speed, but
you'll
> get much better color!
> Flame all you want, but from where I sit, at the printer, it is a lot
easier
> to correct to a decent color balance when you have sufficient information
on
> the negative in all three layers, to get a fair representation of the
> subject!
> The hardest task I've ever had was explaining to a lady that even if she
> used a white backdrop to photograph her craft items with tungsten light,
> that if I balanced the sheet to look white, everything else was a funny
> color- had to show her the densitometer readings where the blue sensitive
> layer had a density of .22 and the red and green layers had densities of
> about .80!
> If you do use filters, and want good correction- shoot a frame or two with
a
> neutral gray card- modst printers balance to a gray. I can read the
> densities of the gray card on the negative and get a ballpark correction-
or
> read a test print of the gray card and know the amount of correction to
key
> in for that roll. Some one hour labs, however, may balk at taking the time
> to do this, or they may have operators that use the PHD button to print
>  Push Here!, Dummy!).
> Try it with filters and a gray card- you'll be pleasantly surprised.
>
> Dan ( The Sixty Minute Man....)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: apbc <apbc@public1.sta.net.cn>
> To: Leica Users Group <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 6:42 AM
> Subject: [Leica] Donning his asbestos suit, he asks: "Filters for the
> 75/1.4M indoors?"
>
>
> > >When you folks are shooting color film with your wonderful 50/1.0 or
> > >75/1.4, how do you avoid the dreaded orange glow from incandescent
> > >lighting?
> >
> > 64T, 160T, 320T or a professional printer of negatives all do very
> > nicely, thank you.
> >
> > Bests
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > Adrian Bradshaw
> > Editorial and Corporate Photography
> > Shanghai, China
> >
> >
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