Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/04/10

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Cops run amok
From: "Bryan Caldwell" <bcaldwell@softcom.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:08:05 -0700

Must be something in that Toledo water. Check out the following story:

http://www.toledoblade.com/editorial/news/9d09pix.htm


Bryan


- -----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Caldwell <bcaldwell@softcom.net>
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Cops run amok


>Don't get the idea that I support what the cops apparently did in this Ohio
>situation. I do know that their statement or supposed justification wasn't
>reported. Just because they didn't give a statement to the reporter
covering
>the story doesn't mean that there isn't another side to this - with or
>without merit. Whatever happened, the District Attorney considered it had
>enough merit to prosecute.
>
>My last comment was meant to be more general. Yes you have a right to take
>photographs on your own property. But it is not a right without limits. You
>don't have the right to photograph absolutely anything under any
>circumstances. Now, even if your actions are violating the law, that still
>doesn't mean that you have no Fourth Amendment protection. But, our Fourth
>Amendment protections have been dwindling.
>
>My guess (and that's all it is) in this Ohio incident, is that courts will
>give tremendous latitude to law enforcement in controlling accident or
crime
>scenes. This is the only thing I can think of that the District Attorney
>could be relying on. It would be very interesting to know exactly what
>happened. There are certainly incompetents in every profession. I'm not
>saying that this is the case here, but that includes reporters. We've read
>one brief news item. It could be entirely accurate or there could be much
>more to the story. I know what it's like to work on a case and read very,
>very distorted coverage of it in the press.
>
>As for cops having no right to be ignorant -  I spend my career attacking
>the actions of cops and you'll get no argument from me here <g>.
>
>Bryan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric Welch <ewelch@ponyexpress.net>
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 11:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Cops run amok
>
>
>>At 10:10 PM 4/9/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>>It depends on what they're taking pictures of and under what
>circumstances.
>>
>>If they're going to blow the neighborhood up, I guess the cop should take
>>the camera away. But he doesn't have to get ignorant.
>>
>>Otherwise, the cops have no right whatsoever.
>>
>>Eric Welch
>>St. Joseph, MO
>>http://www.ponyexpress.net/~ewelch
>>
>>Logic: The art of being wrong with confidence...
>