Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/01/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Reading the message below, one is rewarded by the very perceptive and well considered commentary, and then one is not surprised that Erwin's name appears at the bottom of it. Thank you. Also, while I agree with Alan that we should not "insinuat[e] that the editors and labs are crooked," per se, it is nevertheless difficult to believe that magazines wouldn't be influenced, if perhaps only in very subtle ways, in their reviews of the products of manufacturers who pay to advertise in them. This is only human. Art Peterson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [Leica] wrotten journalists?? Author: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us at Internet Date: 1/15/99 12:55 PM Alan wote partially at least: >For the rest, one may, like Erwin, challenge test procedures and > criteria, but I find it very strange the way some of us reject test > articles as a whole by insinuating that the editors and labs are crooked > and/or incompetent and that their considerations are worthless as soon > as they are not sufficiently laudative for the revered L brand. Most of Alans's post are content-rich and worth commenting upon. He is right in his assertion that writers and editors of photographic magazines (free lance or employed) do their jog as good as they can. Indeed no one would intentionally falsify results to please some manufacturer. Consider however these facts (and facts it are as I am part of this industry). First of all my position as a background. I earn my money outside of photography. I do write for several magazines in the world, sometimes for free sometimes for a fee. But I have no economical necessity to write agianst a deadline and I am fully free to choose whatever topic I personally feel competent to write about. So I more often refuse than accept an invitation to provide an article. Now the typical magazine-contributor or journalist. He/she must produce x pages of editorial content per month about topics or products that are news in that period. The photographic industry and the press are in a strange deadlock situation. When a new product (example a body or lens or film) is introduced the company wants immediate and broad coverage of it by the whole press. That gives it a edge to the competition and ensures that as many readers as possible will read about it. On the other hand the press wants newsstand headlines as : "the first complete test of ...", "exclusive new product already through our lab..". That is very legitimate as they need to sell magazines. No magazine will feel happy when they test a product two after all other magaznes had their say. The readers just do not wnat to buy that issue. (its old stuff). But what is the reality bout this mutual understanding. The particular product needs to be tested in a short time by many persons. That gives any journalist only a fraction of time. I once got a megadollar digital camera that I only could use for one day as before me a collegue had already booked it and the next day another collegue also needed to write about it. The distributor had small amount of samples so a tight schedule was prepared. Any journalist thus had one day. Mine came with the memory not erased by my collegue. He had shot believe me or not a very small number of pictures of mediocre standard. But his testreport was full of praise. I have refused to do a test under these conditions. Now in a month a magazine has many products, so combinations are easy. If a new lens and a new film and a new body are to be tested, why not combine al three in one test cycle. It is again legitimate, given time and budget constraints and industry/competitor pressures. Is it good for the comsumer? No not at all. But we all want news fast. Consider the typical LUG pattern when a new Leica product is announced. We all want instant reports about its quality and a long series of qestions about how this product compares to other products will be posted. The new 2/90 M apo will arrie in the shops after summer 1999. But we all need the testresults NOW. Typically a contributor/journalist will spend at most a day or less on a product test. Remember he/she is paid per page. If you have to spend a full week for a serious analysis, but your editor gives you only two pages edtorial space, what do you do? A week labor is then just too much, so what happens is a let us see what we can do approach. Now some writers/testers are very good and some are not so good. That reflects in the results obviously. I am critical of lens test reports because I know how many of them are conducted and I know the persons behind them. Alan is right that they try to do the best job they can, but with all pressures and constraines as mentioned, the usual pattern is a middle of the road report, so no one can accuse you of any errors. The famous MTF graphs are an example. They are generated in surprisingly short time and can be commented upon again in a short time. So here we have a situation where no one in particular or anyone in general is to be blamed. The press should withstand the pressure to publish asap to be ahead of the competion. The consumers should vote with their feet for these magazines with the most reflective and laborious reports and refuse to cite the others. The industry should provide generous and unbased support to help magazines with quality reviews. Erwin