Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/11/30

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Subject: Re: [Leica] actual leica question...
From: Patrick Giagnocavo <>
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:05:03 -0500

Walter S Delesandri wrote:
> Patrick,
> The best deal on a Leica today is a "user" M4-2.  I've seen
> several in the $650-750 range.  I've owned and used
> the M4-2 and M4-P as well as the older bodies, and they're
> the best buy.  They don't have the "collector" appeal, or the
> finish quality of the earlier Ms, but they're tough
> workhorses.  I've used two CLs, fun, but they're built cheap and
> the metering system is a disaster waiting to happen.  The
> CLE is now virtually unrepairable (thank you japanese) but
> was a neat camera.

Hi walter,

Thanks for your response.

The information I had was that the CLE was similar internally to the
Minolta "X" series SLR's (like the X-700); so a repairman who could
fix this could probably fix the CLE.  The CLE can do TTL flash with
flashes that support the Minolta X-700 (I know, this is almost

On a recent trip to Germany I looked at a CLE with 40mm Rokkor, plus
they had a 90MM F4 Elmar-something that was very tiny.

> The screw mount cameras are a cult.  

Well, I sort of knew that already! ;-) 

> I don't buy the posts that state that the newest lens designs
> are the only ones to have, but if you want to USE the junk,

I do want to use my cameras - they don't do any good sitting in a
camera bag!

> It's hard to use a FED, etc, unless you're also a repairman.

Really that bad, huh?

> go with the "undesirables" -- a canada M4-2 user!!

OK, eh?  Like, good day and thank you for your comments, eh?
> Welcome to the cult -- no turning back now....

OK count me in - but I won't drink the Kool-Aid :)