Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/10/30

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Subject: Re: [Leica] darkroom update...
From: "Francesco (Glossymedia)" <fls@san.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:36:27 -0800

Thanks!  I will try moving lights around and getting a different bulb.
A darkroom?  It just might happen if I get hooked!  :-)

Francesco



At 04:54 AM 10/28/98 , GREG A ACHENBACH wrote:
>Francesco -
>I suspected that once you developed your own film, contact printing would
>quickly follow. Good for you.
>Your safelight should be no less than 6 feet from the paper to avoid
>fogging. A 100w bulb at 1 foot is a very strong light source. Try using a 25
>or 40 w bulb and move the bulb 3 to 5 feet away. Also once you get an
>acceptable image, develop the paper for 1.5 min and fix for 2 min.
>You're close to success so keep trying. Now I'll make a prediction. Once you
>achieve success, there's a darkroom in your future, within 1 month .. max.
>
>Greg Achenbach
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Francesco (Glossymedia) <fls@san.rr.com>
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 2:28 AM
>Subject: [Leica] darkroom update...
>
>
>>Contact prints......my latest project.
>>
>>The facts:
>>
>>amber safelight......2 feet from printer
>>100W soft tungsten bulb.......1 foot from printer
>>Ilford MG Paper Developer at 20C for 60 seconds
>>Kodak Indicator Stop Bath at 20C for 30 seconds
>>Ilford Rapid Fixer at 20C for 60 seconds
>>Ilford MG Glossy Paper RC
>>Kodak Glossy Paper RC
>>wash under running water for 2 minutes
>>hang dry
>>
>>Well, I got the TMax 400 negs developed perfectly, but when
>>I tried to folow Hedgecoe's instructions on contact prints, I
>>messed up a few times.  In his book he explained how to run
>>a test to determine proper exposure time for contact prints.
>>Since I do not have an enlarger yet, I improvised.
>>Under safelight,  I placed the neg strip over the paper, then
>>placed the combo under the contact printer glass sheet.  I exposed
>>with the tungsten desk lamp for 5 second increments, as Hedgecoe
>>recommended.  I then ran through the chemicals and times
>>stated above.  Jet black paper.  No images at all.  Hedgecoe said
>>there would be a gradient strip on the paper from light grey to black
>>and the proper exposure would be the one where the paper just turned
>>black, but my entire strip was black!  After some more testing, I assumed
>>the safelight was not really safe, or that the Ilford paper was not safe
>>under that light, since the Ilford paper insert said the light had to be
>>a special one.  I switched to Kodak paper, and tried again.  Under the
>>safelight, I got black paper again, even at 5 seconds.
>>Now I thought the safelight was certainly not safe, so I removed it.
>>This time I tried the same thing in the dark.  This time I got the faintest
>>of images to appear, but very very faint!  I deduced the light was on
>>too long, so I knocked it down to 5 seconds.  Still too long.....I got
>>images, but very faint and dark.  I then decided that the tungsten bulb
>>was too strong, so I changed the setup and I exposed with the amber
>>safelight at a 2 foot distance from the paper, and used no tungsten light.
>>At 5 seconds, same thing....faint images.  At 3 seconds, I was getting
>>tired and when better, but still faint, images appeared, I was relieved
>>and figured I was on the right track.  But I quit for the night.
>>I remain confused.
>>
>>I know all of you darkroom veterans are ROTFL right now, and that's OK,
>>but what I am doing wrong here?  A million things are going through my head
>>as to what the problem is:  light source too close, time is supposed to
>>be very short (under 2 seconds), light source is too strong, etc.
>>Am I on the right track?  Can someone tell me the proper timings for
>>making standard contact prints?  Is it posible to do without an enlarger
>>or am I wasting my time, paper, and chemicals?
>>
>>Francesco
>>
>>PS......what is the difference between a developer such as HC-110 and
>>XTOL?  Is XTOL a paper developer?
>>
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