Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/07/17

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Wonders of plastic (digital)
From: Mark <>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:13:20 -0700


i think you miss a point and are not quite up to date.

missing point:

with a digital darkroom you can fix it once and then print as many
fixed prints as you like. the fixes are much easier to make (try 
unscratching a negative or slide for instance).

up to date:

there are now dye subs (the kodak for instance) that print on photographic
paper and use a UV pass to create archivable prints with the kind of
longevity that you cite for cibachrome (20+ years).

whatever, it's great that you are happy with cibachrome ! i am fairly
sure that cibachrome will portray that "leica difference" better than
anything digital under $10k....


Robert G. Stevens wrote:
> Alex:
> Having tried both ink jets, dye sub, and Ciabachrome, I have come to the
> conclusion that ink jet prints and dye sub prints pale in comparison to a
> Ciabachrome Print.  When you print on the high end ink jet papers and
> factor in the printer consumable,  Ciabachrome is not much different in
> price.  As far as the rest of it goes, a darkroom is probably cheaper than
> a computer, Photoshop, slide scanner, and high end printer.  Add it all up
> some time.  My used V35 enlarger was about $1,000 and the Jobo Cpe2 new was
> about $600.  That is $1,600, about the price of a Nikon Scanner.  Add a
> dark closet and you have all you need to make prints.
> The other thing that is missed in most of these digital darkroom threads is
> the lack of permanence of the image and the limited image size.  An ink jet
> or dye sub print will start to noticeably fade in a matter of months, while
> a Ciabachrome print does not show signs of fading until about twenty years
> on display.  With digital, you could reprint the file every six months or
> so and have a sort of permanence.