Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/05/08

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Chrome Tele-Elmarit 90/2,8 (fat), and SOOZI
From: "Gary Todoroff" <datamaster@humboldt1.com>
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 20:41:48 -0700

> From: Lucien 

(original snip from me:)
> >It took me over 25 years of use to find out that the bayonet mount 
> >was actually an adapter. I was using a screw mount lens version called
> >the SOOZI model, with a serial number indicating that it was made in 
> >1957, the first year it was made.
> >Total production was only about 500.
> >That lens deserves to be called rare, yet on the few occasions that 
> >one is for sale, the price has averaged around $2500.
> 
> Is there a red index mark (plastic or painted) on your SOOZI ?
> If there is, it's not a real screw mount lens, and it's
> less rare, but more than a fixed bayonet 90/2. ;-)
> 
The presence of the red mark is the first question from a well-informed
collector, since apparently Leica themselves adapted many thread-mount
SOOZI's to be a bayonet mount lens, adding their own red dot. Mine has no
bayonet index mark at all. There was a little residue on the threads when I
took off the adapter 25 years after I bought the lens. It could have been
some glue that a user or dealer applied to tighten the adapter, or maybe
Leica originally glued a few without adding the index mark. That would make
an interesting point for a historical collecting discussion - Did Leica
ever sell the first 90mm Summicron as a bayonet lens without adding the
index mark? Since mine has the 147 serial number batch, it appears to be
among the first few ever made.

Gary Todoroff