Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/03/31

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Subject: Re: [Leica] What russian/east german lenses to buy?
From: Marco Grande <hektor73@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:13:30 -0800 (PST)

Marc,

I've looked at cross sections of Canon RF 50mm lenses.
Only the 50/1.5 (a lens with a bad reputation) looks like a Sonnar.
Their good lenses (50/1.4, 50/1.8) look like typical Gauss designs.

Marco



- ---Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net> wrote:
>
> At 11:24 AM 3/30/98 -0800, Adam wrote:
> >Roger Hicks in his book "A History of the 35mm Still Camera" Focal
Press
> 1984 
> >ISBN 0-240-51233-2
> >
> >In his brief blurb on the Sonnars:
> >"It was left to Zeiss to introduce a really fast triplet
derivative. They
> did 
> >this in 1932 with the f/2 and f/1.5 Sonnars. The f/2 has a single
front
> glass, a 
> >triplet centre, and a doublet rear, and the f/1.5 has a triplet rear.
> Because 
> >they are still essentially triplets, with only six glass-air
surfaces,
> they are 
> >still adequately contrasty, but they pay for their simplicity in
other
> ways. The 
> >f/2 is a good deal more than acceptable, and by f/5.6 or f/8 the
initially 
> >rather poor edge definition sharpens up considerably. The f/1.5, on
the
> other 
> >hand, is sharp enough centrally but never really pulls in the edges"
> >
> >There was an article in LHSA Viewfinder a while back (forget by
who) on
> another 
> >Sonnnar clone, the 50/1.4 Nikkor, in which the author describes the
same
> problem 
> >at the edges, even stopped well down.
> >
> >Has this been your experience with the Sonnar and Jupiter?
> 
> No.  Roger and I have FAXed each other on this and related points. 
That is
> his experience;  it isn't mine, nor, for that matter, is it
consistent with
> Kingslake's analysis of the design.  The 1.4/50 Nikkor is, of
course, more
> than a "clone":  it is an outright theft of the Zeiss design, used
> unlawfully but with the permission of the Allied occupation
authorities
> which was supposed to make it "all right".  Of course, it does no such
> thing, morally:  a theft is a theft, and a thief is a thief.  Canon
and
> Nikon built their reputations on larcened goods.
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
> msmall@roanoke.infi.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
> Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir!
> 
> 

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