Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/03/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Vario-Apo-Elmarit 70-180 vs. Vario-Elmar 105-280
From: Dominique PELLISSIER <pelliss@droit-eco.u-nancy.fr>
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:46:54 +0100

A 12:45 21/03/98 +0100, vous avez =E9crit :
>Hello friends:
>
>I was looking in a brochure on both high-end Leica zoom lenses: the=20
>Vario-Apo-Elmarit 70-180 f/2.8 and the Vario-Elmar 105-280 f/4.2.
>How do these two lenses compare qualitywise? I heard that the Apo is=20
>truly outstanding and in line with the prime Apo teles. Is this also the=
=20
>case for the Elmar although is not called Apo?
>
>Apart from optical quality, how do these lenses behave in practical use?=
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>The both weigh almost 2 kilos, and together with R8 and winder, that=20
>would be around 3 kilos. Is it still possible to handhold these "beasts"=
,=20
>or are you practically obliged to always use a tripod? Are they a joy to=
=20
>use or a burden to take? If the latter were the case, there would be not=
=20
>much use in getting either one of them (I would be using them especially=
=20
>for holiday-travel purposes).
>
>Would it be wiser to go for a prime lens like the new Apo-Elmarit 180=20
>f/2.8 or the Apo-Telyt 180 f/3.4 which is now somewhat discounted,=20
>instead of one of both zooms?
>If a zoom is the way to go, which one would suit me best: I have at=20
>present following R lenses: 28 f/2.8, 50 f/2.0, Macro 60 f/2.8 and 80=20
>f/1.4. It would seem I could either sell the 80 f/1.4 and get the 70-180=
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>f/2.8, or keep it and go for the 105-280 f/4.2 which will give more rang=
e.
>
>Thanks for any advice on the matter.
>Best greetings,
>
>Pascal
>Belgium
>
>P.S. The Belgian importer could not help. Can you believe it, but they=20
>said they don't have even one sample of these lenses in stock, and they=20
>added that no dealer in the country had such lens!!! How could you=20
>reasonably be expected to spend such big money on a lens (they are among=
=20
>Leica's most expensive ones) without even trying or holding them?

I quite understand your importer. The price of these items is absolutely
foolish and having one in stock is too costly if he aims a good managemen=
t
of the stock.