Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/01/19

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Subject: [Leica] Re:Lens Numbering & Soap Boxes (long)
From: Leikon35 <Leikon35@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:41:37 EST

 Robert - It really is not too difficult to understand, if you just think of
the
 Elmar lens as being the standard lens & not an optional item, that came
 with the 56,548 Leica 1(A)s made between 1926 & 1936. Also 857 in 1925
 that were called Elmax or Anastigmats & 589 Hektor 50/2.5 lenses in 1931.
 
 As I wrote before, some of these unnumbered lenses were put in new "O"
 RF coupled & standardized mounts when the 1st rangefinder Leica II(D)
 arrived on the scene in 1932 and therefore didn't have a visable number.
 They are really quite common as in those years, Leitz offered a very in-
 expensive upgrading and you could have your Mod. I upped to a II and
 then the II to a III - all having this same unnumbered lens which after
 WW2 could be factory coated for a modest charge.   
 
 This is how things were done in those days & how Leitz earned its fine
 reputation & mystique before the Leitz family sold the company to the
 Swiss (Sheidheinie)* company that made its fortune in selling cement.
 Many Leica users are still so entranced with the Leica mystique that 
 they will ignore the relatively poor quality control & service that some
 say is offered today - and attempt to justify this by saying that it is just
 the whole new era where high tech replaces craftmanship. Since most
 of what I am saying has already been a long thread back about six
 months ago - I am going to get off my soap box & have dinner.
 ** spelling ?????

 Daaag,

 Marvin Moss
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In a message dated 98-01-19 21:21:00 EST, you write:
<< Now, now,
 60,000...unnumbered...doesn t it somewhat sound like an oxymoron?  Or are we
 to understand that each early leica body was automatically sold with a 50 mm
 Elmar? I am not implying that the lens is rare in any way, I d justlike to
 understand the early policy Leitz used to number their lenses, and i d like
 to know how to find out the year of production of my lens.
 
 Good evening to all,
 
 Robert.