Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/01/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]- ---------- > > > Leica-Users List Digest Sunday, 7 December 1997 Volume 02 : = Number > 031 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: lhtseng@math.fcu.edu.tw (Li-Hsin Tseng) > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:55:04 +0800 (CST) > Subject: [Leica] no. of blades > > Please help me with these questions: > (1) Which Leica M/LTM lens has the largest number of blades > (to form the diaphragm)? > (2) Which RF/VF lens has more blades than Leica lenses? > (3) Similar to questions (1) and (2), but for Leica R and SLR lenses. > Thank you very much in advance. > /Leslie Tseng > > ------------------------------ > > From: CapsTeeth <CapsTeeth@aol.com> > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 00:34:38 EST > Subject: [Leica] Lens construction > > I was comparing a current M-50/2 (w. pull-out hood) and a 35/2 ASPH to > early-1970's versions and noted that I couldn't find any setscrews or > retaining-rings on the current versions (although current 90/2 and the = new 21 > ASPH do have them evident) except for the ones affixing the rear lensmo= unt. I > remember someone of some authority saying that some of the newer lenses= are > held together with cement, and that they tend to come loose with use. = In the > dental field we use some phenomenal cements and resin-bonding materials= which > withstand extreme forces and a humid environment as well if not better = than > mechanical fasteners, but I would like to inquire if any users out ther= e have > experienced problems with newer lenses coming loose? > > Doc > > ------------------------------ > > From: Korling <korling@elim.net> > Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 20:13:02 +0900 > Subject: [Leica] M lenses on a T90 > > I am curious whether anyone is using M or thread mount lenses on a Cano= n > T90 with the available adapters. > I read something about it on the Classic Cameras page on the net. The > author called it a Viso IV. > > Stan Reinike > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Steve Hickel <smhickel@x2.alliance.net> > Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 07:02:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Leica] For sale:M6 and lense > > Jun, > > Would your friend consider a trade for a Nikon F2.8 Auto Focus 80-200mm > lens with filter and shade for one of the Summicron's? > > Steve > > At 01:04 AM 12/6/97 +0900, you wrote: > >Hi LUG folks, > > > >My Name is Jun Nakajima,live in japan. > >This is my first to write to this LUG area. > >Recently,a friend of mine who live in hnere(japan) > >would like to sale some leica items which are as follows; > > > >1)M6 BLK NO 217XXXX 1290.00 US$(Boxed) > >2)M6 Chr NO 200XXXX 1350.00 US$(Boxed) > >3)Summicron 35 BLK NO 363XXXX 625.OO US$(Hood,Boxed) > >4)Summicron 35 chr NO 364XXXX 650.OO US$(Hood,Boxed) > >5)Elmarit 21/2.8 NO 357XXXX 1175.00 US$(Hood,Boxed) > > > >All of above items has mint(-)condition,no ding,no scratches. > > > >The cost of these items has not Shipping charge(FEDEX) > >and aloso money handling cahrge. > > > >If you are intereted in these items,please contact via > >E-Mail to: bza00342@jb3.so-net.or.jp (Mr.Daisaku Miyake) > >with your direct action. > > > >I believe that these items has best using condition, > >if anyone will looking for or would like to buy the > >near mint M6 system of Leica camera. > > > >Thanks, jun (jun@magicalights.co.jp) > > > >-- > >Jun Nakajima > >Magicalights Studio Corporation. > >Kashiwa City,Chiba-pre.JAPAN > >SiliconGraphics O2 / NeXT_Rhapsody > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net> > Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 10:30:14 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Leica] no. of blades > > At 04:55 PM 12/6/97 +0800, Leslie Tseng wrote: > >(1) Which Leica M/LTM lens has the largest number of blades > > (to form the diaphragm)? > >(2) Which RF/VF lens has more blades than Leica lenses? > > There was a version of the 2/50 Summitar with 12 or 15 blades. This > PROBABLY takes the cake. I do not know of any other production camera = lens > with more. > > Marc > > > msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315 > Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir! > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Carl Socolow <csocolow@microserve.net> > Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 11:16:56 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Leica] Lens construction > > At 12:34 AM 12/6/97 EST, you wrote: > >I was comparing a current M-50/2 (w. pull-out hood) and a 35/2 ASPH = to > >early-1970's versions and noted that I couldn't find any setscrews or > >retaining-rings on the current versions (although current 90/2 and the= new 21 > >ASPH do have them evident) except for the ones affixing the rear > lensmount. I > >remember someone of some authority saying that some of the newer lense= s are > >held together with cement, and that they tend to come loose with use. = In the > >dental field we use some phenomenal cements and resin-bonding material= s which > >withstand extreme forces and a humid environment as well if not better= than > >mechanical fasteners, but I would like to inquire if any users out the= re have > >experienced problems with newer lenses coming loose? > > > >Doc > > > > > > Doc, > > My 35 Summicron (version just before the Asph) has a loose front sectio= n > just in front of the aperture ring. Probably because I rely too much = on > using the lensshade to bayonet the lens on and off. I'm told that it's = a > simple matter of re-gluing it and that I should discontinue my bad > practices. Oh well... > > Carl S. > "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." > Francois Villon. > > ------------------------------ > > From: Claes Bjerner <claes.bjerner@pi.se> > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 18:29:34 -0000 > Subject: [Leica] Hologon & Leica prices in Tokyo > > I just returned home to Sweden after my annual visit to Tokyo. Have =3D > been off the list for three weeks, but the first message I received =3D > from LUG after my re-subscription is about how a Japanese guy who =3D > offers mint and boxed Leica M6 bodies and lenses for very low prices. > > Truth is that the Leica prices in Tokyo today are lower than ever =3D > before. My favorite store, MAP Camera in Shinjuku, now offers the M6 = =3D > for 180 000 yen! With today=3DB4s rate at 130 yen to the dollar that = =3D > equals US$1385. > > >1)M6 BLK NO 217XXXX 1290.00 US$(Boxed) > >2)M6 Chr NO 200XXXX 1350.00 US$(Boxed) > >3)Summicron 35 BLK NO 363XXXX 625.OO US$(Hood,Boxed) > >4)Summicron 35 chr NO 364XXXX 650.OO US$(Hood,Boxed) > >5)Elmarit 21/2.8 NO 357XXXX 1175.00 US$(Hood,Boxed) > > These items offered on the LUG-list sound like fairly decent demo =3D > equipment considering the prices. > > No, I didn=3DB4t buy anything Leica this time in Tokyo. Well, I picked = =3D > up an additional US made M-grip for US$60. > > One of my many reasons for going to Tokyo was to buy a converted =3D > Zeiss 16mm Hologon, but when my old friend, Yasuo Takahashi at Sukiya = =3D > Camera in Ginza, offered me his demo Hologon plus his demo Contax G2 = =3D > for less than US$2200 - how could I resist? > > When I proudly showed my wife the new Contax set she immediately =3D > decided to "share it" with me. She bought two more Contax lenses. One = =3D > 45mm Planar and one 28mm Biogon. My wife already has five autofocus = =3D > Minolta system cameras, but she thinks they are to "heavy and =3D > clumsy". How can a range finder fan argue against that? Next step is = =3D > to get her a new body as well. A new Contax G2 body that is! I want =3D > my Hologon lens to stay permanently on my G2. When I=3DB4ve seen my =3D > slides I will give you a more precise evaluation of the Hologon. > > All I can say before I=3DB4ve seen the results is that the Hologon is = a =3D > very awkward lens in many respects.It=3DB4s certainly not an everyday = =3D > lens. But in the right situations it is the only one. > > ------------------------------ > > From: Claes Bjerner <claes.bjerner@pi.se> > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 18:29:32 -0000 > Subject: [Leica] Tim Page & Requiem > > While in Tokyo recently I went to the photo exhibition "Requiem to =3D > the photographers who died in Vietnam and Indochina". > > Those pictures really grabbed me. Not only because many of them were = =3D > taken by old friends of ours but the photographs themselves serve as = =3D > a very painful reminder of a tragedy that too many of us still tend =3D > to glorify as the ultimate Photographer=3DB4s War. > > Many of the pictures have never been shown before in the free world =3D > since they were shot by North Vietnamese and VC photographers. =3D > However, none of those pictures show the real horrors of the war. If = =3D > anything they really tried to glorify the communist efforts. They =3D > don=3DB4t show vietnamese soldiers crying in pain or fear or mutilated = =3D > vietnamese bodies. They all seem to have a simple propaganda purpose, = =3D > while all of the western photographs show the true ugly face of that = =3D > particular war. > > Horst Faas and Tim Page have done a real great job with this =3D > exhibition and the book. The japanese version of the book is =3D > absolutely beautiful. It sells for just US$45. But I=3DB4ll wait for = =3D > the english version. > > Claes > > ------------------------------ > > From: WILLIAM CALDWELL <sneeker@erols.com> > Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 14:54:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Leica] Requiem, authors: Faas & Horst > > Claes wrote: > > Snip > > Horst Faas and Tim Page have done a real great job with this exhibiti= on=3D > and the book. The japanese version of the book is absolutely beautiful= . =3D > It sells for just US$45. But I=3DB4ll wait for the english version. > > > Snip > > The English version of this book is available for US$65 in the book > store at the Newseum, 1101 Wilson Boulevard, Arlington, VA 22209 > <www.newseum.org>, 888.NEWSEUM (toll free) or 703.284.3544.=3D20 > > The photo exhibition is presently showing at this new museum funded by > the Freedom Forum. It and the book are spectacular! I plan to go back > again. The book, Fass, Horst -- "Requiem: by the Photographers Who Die= d > in Vietnam and Indochina" (First ed. 1997) is published by Random House > New York and has Library of Congress no. ISBN 0-679-45657. Random Hous= e > has an E-mail address: <www.randomhouse.com>. The 336 page book, with > b&W and some color images, is truly worth the dollars. > > Bill Caldwell > <sneeker@erols.com> > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Thomas J. Donovan" <75674.3465@compuserve.com> > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:39:37 -0500 > Subject: [Leica] Leica's diffraction limited lenses > > Eric Welch, > > >>As far as I know, Leica has only two diffraction limited lens= es<< > > >>Seems to me diffraction limited is when the lens has optimum apertu= re<< > >>wide open<< > > Per "Leica Fotografie", 8/93. page 27; " The optical performance of the > lens (280 f4) at full aperture is so remarkable that f4 can actually = be > used as the "optimum" working aperture. Indeed, stopping down does not > really enhance the performance to any appreciable degree". Indeed, per= a > LHSA meeting in Kentucky, as I recall, the folks (Lothar Kolsch?) from > Leica Germany announced that the 280 f4 was a "diffraction" limited len= s. > > Eric, sure seems like your definition is similar to that of Leica Germa= ny! > Given that the 280 f4 is one ( I own this one ) of the two; my guess = on the > 2nd lens ( based on > looking for a similar pattern in the BAS charts ) might be: a.) the = R-180 > f2 b.) the R-70-180 APO (I own this one ). c.) M-135 f4. d.) the R-4= 00 > f2.8. My guess would be that the second one is the R-180 f2 lens! > > Tom D. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: FIGLIO4CAP <FIGLIO4CAP@aol.com> > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:12:18 EST > Subject: Re: [Leica] Lenses for B/W or Color > > In addition to an M and and R outfit I also a fairly large collection = of > Pentax lens of both screw and K - mount vintages. Some of the Pentax = lenses > measure quite a bit better on resolution charts and at infinity than = do the > Leica lens, with the exception of the 2.8 Elmarit series (35, 60, 90, = 135) for > the R. However color and black and photos have more depth and interest = in them > with the Leica lens. I lived through most of the "transistion" from the > primary concern with resolution to contrast (thus the MTF method of = lens > evaluation which I think Leica pioneered was developed). I do know that= finer > details show up with Tech Pan with some of the Pentax lenses and I use = them if > that is the goal of the exercise. However, if overall picture quality = is the > aim, then the Leica lenses are the obvious choice. > The color v. BW issue arose in the marketplace, I think, with the rapid= rise > of color print film and the widespread ease of processing that material=