Re: [Leica] M4P chrome w/M6 windows/view finder

[Lucien_vD <Lucien_vD@compuserve.com>]

Spencer Clark wrote:
>
>>I would appreciate comments and thoughts on the following. Have recentl=
y
>>been looking @ an M4P, chrome No. 1643697, that has the M6 windows.

Mark wrote:

>I have a chrome M4-P w/ M6 windows whose serial # (164369X)is very very
>close to the camera that Spencer mentions above.  Could this be a # rang=
e
>that contains others?  Lucien is your camera close the above serial # ?

Mark,

Mine is # 164263X. All three are part of batch M4-P 1642551-1643750 of
1984.


1546351-1545300 M4-P            80-81
1546351-1552350 M4-P            81
1552351-1552884 M4-P            81
1562351-1564350 M4-P            82
1586351-1590350 M4-P            82
1604551-1606550 M4-P            82-83
1618551-1620550 M4-P Chrome     83              =3D 2 000
1620551-1622550 M4-P            83-84
1636551-1637550 M4-P Chrome     83              =3D 1 000
1642551-1643750 M4-P            84   **
1649251-1651250 M4-P            84-85
1691951-1692950 M4-P            86


Total Chrome =3D 3 000  - 2500 1913-1983 =3D 500.Thats how Ghester Sartor=
ius
find that number in his "Identifying Leica Cameras" ISBN 0-8174-4026-7 .
Obviously this is not correct because whe know at least 5 chrome M4-P
outside
of the two chrome batch;

164263X Lucien  M6 window
1643193 Lager   M4-2 window
1643474 Lager   M6 window
164369X Mark    M6 window
1643697 Spencer M6 window

Is somebody of the LUG the owner of a BLACK M4-P =

in the 1642551-1643750 batch ??
Maybe all the batch is Chrome.=3D 2500 instead of 500.
Still rare but much less.

In the Leica International Price Guide (7th edition)

M4-P Black              =3D 1000 $  R3    +/-  22 000 Ex.
M4-P Chrome             =3D 3000 $  R6    500 or 2500 Ex. ???
M4-P Chrome 70th Anniv. =3D 2500 $  R6    2500 Ex.

R3 =3D Unusual Possible availability      3-6 month
R6 =3D Very rare    "    "                once in 2 years

In Belgium a M4-P Black is more R2 (slightly unusual 14 days)
and a M4-P Chrome is more R8 (I have seen two in 13 years) =

The second one is still for sale in Brussels (around 2000$)
But I have seen +/- 15 M4-P Chrome 70th Anniv. in 13 years.
Each market is different.
And collecting Leica is not an exact science.
That's the fun of it.

Lucien
BELGIUM